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MasterLink
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F-zero 2...
« Thread started on: Jun 25th, 2003, 08:40am » |
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Why don't we start an F-zero 2 competition, it would give ROM players a chance of earning victory. And, according to what I've read here about F-zero 2 (I still don't know whetter my cousin has it or not) it only came out in Japan. I've got a translated ROM, so if you want it, ask me. btw, why are ROM-times not accepted?
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Re: F-zero 2...
« Reply #1 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 08:57am » |
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ROM times arent accepted because you can use save and load state and carefully build the perfect race.
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 11:41am » |
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However i do agree with you that we should have a F-Zero 2 competition, some people dont have any consoles and only have a PC this would give them a chance to join the community.
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Re: F-zero 2...
« Reply #3 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 12:30pm » |
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You are right about the save state procedure on the emulators, but you're not right about building the race. You're practicaly unable to build your race with an emulator. I've tried... (I own both the cartridge and the ROM for F-Zero X) btw, cheating with save-states is controllable, if one does use them, you should be able to track it! Some programs can do that.
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Re: F-zero 2...
« Reply #4 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 1:11pm » |
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2 problems. Not everyone is good with computer or doesn't have the right programs for "tracking".
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F Zero 2 was never completed...only 5 courses were ever made.
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Re: F-zero 2...
« Reply #5 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 2:06pm » |
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MasterLink you understood it wrong. What he means by building up the perfect race is not building the actual circuit, but racing without making mistakes.
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Re: F-zero 2...
« Reply #6 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 2:15pm » |
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We could include the tracks as extras in the F-Zero (SNES) section, but wouldn't actually count for the overall. Kind of like how death race is to F-Zero X. ^^
EDIT: Oh and to be in the F-Zero 2 section, it probably would require having your times for the F-Zero 1 as well. Since if F-Zero 2 tracks are extras, and the player only submits times for those tracks, it probably wouldn't help the player very much since it's almost like he didn't join.
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Re: F-zero 2...
« Reply #7 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 4:42pm » |
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I wouldn't count on having a competition for BS F-Zero.
Couple reasons;
1) Times raced using "game enhancers" such as Game Shark, Codebreaker, Action Replay, Xplorer, Xploder, etc., are NOT allowed.
2) Times raced on computer ROM copies of the games are NOT allowed.
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Most emulators have the "game enhancers" built in. As such, they can be turned on and off at whim. Unfair advantage right off the bat.
Because BS F-Zero(F-Zero 2) can only be found in ROM format these days, that unfair advantage will always exist. (I'm not saying that anyone here WOULD take that advantage, but there are people out there that WOULD.)
We strive for a fair competitive gamefield here. If ROMs allowed to be used for one competition, then they would have to be allowed for ALL competitions and opens up a whole new can of worms. And we go right back to the "Unfair Advantage" situation again.
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Re: F-zero 2...
« Reply #8 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 4:47pm » |
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besides...alot more people have snes fzero as compared to the fzero 2 rom.
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« Reply #9 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 6:47pm » |
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Good point there. ^^
Maybe someday they'll release it in bonus pack.
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Re: F-zero 2...
« Reply #10 on: Jun 26th, 2003, 02:00am » |
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I'll never be interested in hosting a competition for a ROM racing game. There are too many variables, several of them mentioned already, for players to compare times in any reasonable way.
If someone else wants to host an F-Zero 2 competition, send me the link and I'll link to it for those who would be interested, because it is F-Zero related.
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Re: F-zero 2...
« Reply #11 on: Jun 26th, 2003, 04:06am » |
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@ Locks: I know that he meant that, but that's impossible with an emulator, it would require constant save state loading and saving.
@ the rest: I think I would like to host an F-Zero 2 competition. I'll let you know when the site's ready.
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« Reply #12 on: Jun 26th, 2003, 08:33am » |
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MasterLink: I know it would require constant saving and loading of stated, it isnt that difficult. In ZSNES in the menu bar there is a menu titles MISC, when you click of that you have the option to select game-keys, All you need to do is map save and load state to differnt keys, all you need to do is make them a key of your joystick and you can save and load the state at will... Also in game-keys there is a slow down key which can be used to slow the game down and make it easier to drive.
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Re: F-zero 2...
« Reply #13 on: Jun 26th, 2003, 1:43pm » |
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Also MasterLink, have you done any racing in F-Zero2, if so what is your best time on Mute City IV?
I just did 3 runs on that track and managed to get a 1.51.49 with teh yellow car. I am just wondering how that will stack up in his competition.
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Re: F-zero 2...
« Reply #14 on: Jun 27th, 2003, 10:11am » |
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@KevtwoD2: I just did the Practise (that's the Time Trial in F-Zero 2) on Mute City. My total race was 1'55"95, best lap was 0'22"65. I used the blue car. Use the boost on the start of the lap. As for the last turn, take the zippers and release the B button, that should make you take the turn at a high speed without loosing control. btw, at the begin of the track, take the zippers to boost and then jump on those triangles, it should lead you directly to those last zippers. That trick cannot be done with the yellow car, it's too fast.
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