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Kalle Videkull
Post by F-Zero Fanatic on Aug 7th, 2003, 11:25am

Is it me or is this guy improving his times FAST!?

I've just had a look at his latest time update, he's beaten a couple of my times that took months to get already, for example, he now has a sub 1'54"00 on PF. That's an insane time.
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by SimonC on Aug 8th, 2003, 01:57am

Looking at his times, he certainly has improved a lot (4 seconds on PF and 2 on Champ!). But I'm pretty sure there his real times.

At least you still hold the British record on PF.
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by on Aug 24th, 2003, 12:18pm

i cant help but be a bit skeptical on his times, i cannot believe he has improved so much in such a short period of time.. like ninto said on PF he allready has a 1'53..but 1 month ago his best time was 2'02! and not to mention this weeks update he went simply from 15th place overal to 6th! it took me at least a couple of months to do that.. one thing is to jump 9 places in the knight lv ( eg: 80th-71st ) another thing is to do the same at the king lv, litteraly skipping king B.
but then i could be totally wrong and he is actually a god at this game, and if this persists he will ( prob in 3 weeks lol ) have the overall championship title.
.. i guess we all want really is some kind ofvisual proof..or at least get kalle to talk a bit about his strategies ( if he knows english )

take care

Leo
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by UHD on Aug 24th, 2003, 1:29pm

I doubt very much that there are any false times on the site. Why would there be any? Anyone who does a false post is only kidding themselves.
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by Logan on Aug 24th, 2003, 6:27pm

Oh, you'd be surprised how many people cheat out there. I've heard somewhere that for sites like this it could be anywhere between 5 and ten percent (which for us could mean 10-20 players at least). I'm not saying that there are cheaters, it is definitely not to be underestimated though.

A while back I ran into some old ranking pages (I was updating them) for a certain, undisclosed game, and there were about 3 or 4 people that had times listed for one level that were unbelievable for this reason: The level was a track level. You HAVE to wait for a convoy to get to the other side and no matter what you do, everyone, from best to worse players, gets ONE time on that level. It's just a fact. When confronted, none of the players remembered what they had done, or if the time was actually real, in other words, they couldn't come up with proof.
Whether that was because the webmaster made an error (which I find unlikely to be the case in 3 or more instances) or whether one or more of the players made a mistake, I don't know, but it is very unlikely that all three that I contacted couldn't remember/didn't know/couldn't explain.

I would recommend that if any of you are skeptical at all, to demand proof. Especially in the King level. Especially there. If you want proof from me I'd gladly give it! Only no one really cares.

You'd be surprised though that some cheaters don't like to submit world records, they'll creep up the rankings for a while, or submit times and perhaps not even get into the top 100, it's strange to us perhaps, but it is often the case. I don't know of anyone to suspect and I don't want to have a finger-pointing contest, but definitely be cautious in order to keep competition fun for all.

Going from 15th to 6th is indeed suspicious, but who knows, he could be an awesome player! Only proof submitted will determine that!


Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by Webmaster on Aug 24th, 2003, 8:26pm

Everything is well in hand regarding Kalle. I've been talking to him via e-mail in recent days and he has promised to send screenshots soon (once he learns more about how his digital camera works.)

He's been very agreeable and says he's become this good because he plays all the time and doesn't have a "life," which fits in with the many, many times submissions he's made ... even long before he became so fast.

From all the evidence so far, he fits the profile of a hard-working player and not that of a cheater. I'll post pics when I receive them.

Dave
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by SimonC on Aug 25th, 2003, 01:35am

Perhaps his most impressive times are on Championship. A couple of weeks ago it was 1'27"xx (or something like that), now it's 1'24"36 with a best lap of 16"06. So not only has he gotten much better on champ but also perfected the JDT in such a short space of time.

(I guess I better get used to being out of the top 5. )
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by UHD on Aug 25th, 2003, 05:34am

on Aug 24th, 2003, 6:27pm, Logan wrote:
Oh, you'd be surprised how many people cheat out there. I've heard somewhere that for sites like this it could be anywhere between 5 and ten percent (which for us could mean 10-20 players at least). I'm not saying that there are cheaters, it is definitely not to be underestimated though.


So could players who know they haven't cheated subtract some positions off for themself? For example, I am currently 115th, is there are chance that there are 15 people above me that cheated so I could call myself top 100?
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by F-Zero Fanatic on Aug 25th, 2003, 06:13am

10% of 115 is 11.5, so you'd currently be 103rd at best if that was true.
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by TelpeFion on Aug 25th, 2003, 08:18am

on Aug 24th, 2003, 6:27pm, Logan wrote:
A while back I ran into some old ranking pages (I was updating them) for a certain, undisclosed game, and there were about 3 or 4 people that had times listed for one level that were unbelievable for this reason: The level was a track level. You HAVE to wait for a convoy to get to the other side and no matter what you do, everyone, from best to worse players, gets ONE time on that level. It's just a fact. When confronted, none of the players remembered what they had done, or if the time was actually real, in other words, they couldn't come up with proof.

Star Wars: Rogue Squadron?

I've noticed how fast Kalle has been improving his times, and I really want to see some proof. Not guilty unless proven otherwise, though.
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by RP on Aug 25th, 2003, 09:09am

I can tell you why Kalle improved so fast: He is 4th in the Super Mario Kart PAL competition.

A player who is so good in SMK should have not much problems with MV. He is really an awesome player.
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by Leo on Aug 25th, 2003, 12:10pm

well i 'was' #1 ntsc player on fzero snes.. and even so i didnt improve half as fast. and i believe the snes game is closer related to MV then mario kart.. i'm just guessing all he does is play this game.. nothing else

Leo
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by Logan on Aug 25th, 2003, 3:08pm

TelpeFion : I'd rather not disclose the actual game name (at least one of the "offenders" is ranked on FZeroCentral) but lets just say that you said it, not me You've had experience with that game I see? Right now I'm running the unofficial "official" rankings site.

Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by RP on Aug 25th, 2003, 3:28pm

on Aug 25th, 2003, 12:10pm, Leo wrote:
well i 'was' #1 ntsc player on fzero snes.. and even so i didnt improve half as fast. and i believe the snes game is closer related to MV then mario kart.. i'm just guessing all he does is play this game.. nothing else


Of course the SNES F-Zero is closer related, but SMK is also a game where you have to be extremely skilled to get into the top 10.

I also wanted to say: If someone really wants to gain positions, he plays really hard and maybe Kalle got the hang of the game.
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by Logan on Aug 25th, 2003, 3:37pm

Oh, and UHD: er, I don't think that would be acceptable. We might have a perfect community here where no one cheats, who knows!

Has anyone here played Mario Kart Super Circuit by the way? I always like the SNES Mario Kart but when I tried Super Circuit (after MV) I just about flipped. I was sliding all over the place and barely placed 4th on 150cc! I flipped it off after the first race, it was just too much of a stress to play it. Stress on my nerves, that is
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by F-Zero Fanatic on Aug 25th, 2003, 3:47pm

on Aug 25th, 2003, 3:37pm, Logan wrote:
Has anyone here played Mario Kart Super Circuit by the way? I always like the SNES Mario Kart but when I tried Super Circuit (after MV) I just about flipped. I was sliding all over the place and barely placed 4th on 150cc! I flipped it off after the first race, it was just too much of a stress to play it. Stress on my nerves, that is


Heh heh, same here. I got so pissed off with it that I sold the thing within a month. I found it to be too slow and boring compared to F-Zero MV.
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by Ryan Jenning on Aug 25th, 2003, 4:07pm

Okay, this is getting WAY off-topic. Even though I just said that I am still gonna post somethin about MKSC, I actually think that it is a great game. I already beat every cup and got the gold. I find it very fun, and even have a time that is only "02 off the world record. I never submitted any of my times though. I found the MKSC link on the mariokart64.com or whatever to be really sucky. I don't like the way they submit times. It doesn't matte though because lately I'm all F-ZERO!!!
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by Logan on Aug 25th, 2003, 4:15pm

ON TOPIC: well, we'll just all have to wait for proof won't we? But since Kalle is happy to oblige (apparently) I'm inclined to believe him. This does not negate the necessity for proof though.

So when are you guys going to demand proof from me? I'm WAY up there in the rankings now you know
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by Kalle on Aug 26th, 2003, 01:22am

I have played some F-zero SNES on an emulator and have made a 1'59"64 on MC1 and 2'08"34 and a lap time of 24"53 on BB.

I have also played MKSC there my best times are:
SGB 51"20
LP 49"86

Wich are both site records.
but not WRs.
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by SimonC on Aug 26th, 2003, 02:03am

I tend to believe people more easily if they're competed in other competitions.

Also, I was once second best in the world (outside Japan) at MKSC.
Re: Kalle Videkull
Post by TelpeFion on Aug 26th, 2003, 08:18am

on Aug 25th, 2003, 3:08pm, Logan wrote:
TelpeFion : I'd rather not disclose the actual game name (at least one of the "offenders" is ranked on FZeroCentral) but lets just say that you said it, not me You've had experience with that game I see? Right now I'm running the unofficial "official" rankings site.
Off topic:
Yeah, both RS games played to death. You wouldn't mind giving a link to the site mentioned?

On topic: Well, I'm beginning to believe Kalle. Man, if he really is that good, I'd like to see him play other F-Z games.