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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #26 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 03:54am »

I won t use this technique in solo, that's for sure.
And if it get fixed in further versions dakou should be forbidden, maybe?
I hope more powerfull techniques will be found in the future.
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #27 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 07:04am »

I really hope its a bug they'll get rid of
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #28 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 07:38am »

I'm really worried about this the more I think of it...

All of us should E-mail NOA about this, I already did, sent 3 in fact, we can't just let this thing go on through all the versions of the game

I'll never forgive Nintendo if this goes on

E-MAIL NOW!!!!

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nintendo@noa.nintendo.com

David (and everyone else that has the Japanese version) are there any other issues that have occured that may seem to make the game cheap? I can't imagine anything as bad as this, but please state them immediately, but I have a feeling that this is the only thing that is hindering F-Zero GX from being a great game so far

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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #29 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 09:52am »

I'm quite confused by all I hear here and there.
(right now from sugi: "wall-drift" (I guess it's what people call boost sliding here though it's not a slide turn but a drift turn ) still exist in X)

I don't really have time to play anymore (friends have come to visit Kyoto)... and not really motivated for it.
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #30 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 12:30pm »

A racing game where you have to drive like a snake to get good times, you must be joking.
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #31 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 6:55pm »

Come on guys ! This is a fair elite and you're all fair players, right?
So let the competition start WITHOUT this snake-technique(=Cheats) ! Only 'normal' driving with boosts etc. like the staff ghosts. Just a though,...
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #32 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 7:25pm »

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Come on guys ! This is a fair elite and you're all fair players, right?
So let the competition start WITHOUT this snake-technique(=Cheats) ! Only 'normal' driving with boosts etc. like the staff ghosts. Just a though,...


Yeah, that's what I'll do from now on till the US version is released and we can compare the two and see if this 'bug' is still there.. I'll have that MC time scratched and start over : beating the Phantom Road staff the hard way was 100000 times more rewarding than this wiggling crap.



On a good note: received my Action Replay and now the game works 100% perfectly as intended. Good to finally see my laps and speeds


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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #33 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 8:39pm »

Yeah!!! Screw DAKOU!

Cool, so how is the game now that you can see stuff?
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #34 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 04:34am »

That video link doesnt work anymore. Anyone found an alternative video please? Also, you say you're just not going to use this technique, but wouldnt you accidently employ it while in a sliding setting and sliding rapidly between some corners, ie the sudden change in sliding direction would kick in a small speed boost? I hope this "bug" is removed from the PAL version
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #35 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 06:19am »

you can go on my website, i put the clip on my FTP

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fzerogx/3d75bdbfcb61.avi

Maybe we should vote, "Do you want this dakou trick to be granted or not for time attack on F Zero central if not removed" What s the webmaster's opinion?

It seems that most of us consider like a cheat that kills the game.
Even if i heard some people say DTD was cheat , you couldn t perform it all the race!
That's what made a race so exciting, failing at only one DTD could kill your race time^^

What's your opinion about






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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #36 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 06:26am »

Those dive moves in X were intelligent because they involved a risk, Dakou involves NO RISK AT ALL, I don't see how this is not a cheat

man, gotta keep E-mailing NOA...
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #37 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 08:24am »

on Aug 2nd, 2003, 04:34am, Nick wrote:
Also, you say you're just not going to use this technique, but wouldnt you accidently employ it while in a sliding setting and sliding rapidly between some corners, ie the sudden change in sliding direction would kick in a small speed boost?


Hm, that's right. So maybe sliding should banned at all!? I don't know if sliding(L+left ; R+right) is really neccessary for some tracks or maybe other cornering-techniques are better? (because I am not an FZX or FZGX player )
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #38 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 08:33am »

actually, it can't be accidentally done since your racer would need to be heavy, have an A-grip and be set to max-acceleration (which in truth is rarely done I believe)

but the thing is, it's there... ok, let me post my stuff from IGN, best post of mine ever:

"But when it comes down to it, this bug is not just a bug, it is A FLAW, I really want to play GX without having to think of this imperfection

The game is suppose to BE HARD, the player should not have any access (aside from the difficulty settings) to make the game easy, nay, simple to a point where a 5 year old could probably beat a staff ghost If taught how to do this"

See, there's no denying that
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #39 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 09:57am »

It sounds to me like this technique is a definite bug/glitch in the game, especially if people are already beating the staff ghosts by over 20 seconds or so.
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #40 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 11:58am »

Well Peer from IGN is saying that he agrees and is going to see if he can sort it out with some chats to Ninty/Sega. I personally see it as a gameplay bug. Like someone said, DTD, railboostsliding and all the other highly advanced FZero X techniques were useful individually in special instances.....all coming together to form a perfect lap and great satisfaction. It was all a delicate balance, great skill and context specific....this snake method is the total opposite.
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