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Mute City I - New Strat?
« Thread started on: Jun 11th, 2003, 12:38am »

Kev:

Thank you, Finally a breath of fresh air!!! I am glad that you are smart enough to see that all of the "talking" I do about MC1 is so that these guys can get better. I know I brag alot. I do it intentionally. Trust me, it is nothing personnel against anybody. It is all apart of the fun of the game.

Haven't you guys ever heard about great athletes "trash talking" their opponents in order to gain an edge? Michael Jordan is a great example of this. He never meant it personnally. It was just apart of his game.

And to Barry: Come on man, someone finally says something nice and even provides a new strat and you lock the thread. Now that is funny... don't you think?
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #1 on: Jun 11th, 2003, 12:50am »

Also Kev:

That strat you gave on the last thread "Mute City I Challenge Cont." is extremely interesting.

I have never tried that strat nor have I ever seen it mentioned. However, if you do your power turning well without hitting the rough, you can keep your speed up at 470 km/h. I found that the ideal turning speed was 467 km/h at the lowest point. This allows your car to shave the edges around the rough.

I will definetly try this strat to see if it can be utilized. By the way, what is your best single-boost lap time with and without using this strat. What is your best overall time?

I am glad that you have benefited from my previous strat talk and again, thanks for the new strat idea.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #2 on: Jun 11th, 2003, 1:31pm »

Well, my times arent that great, my 5 lap time is 1:59.60. I never really recorded my best boost lap times. I just raced one right now and did both, blast turning and skimming the outside edge and making the turn that way.
Blast Turning- 23.53
Skimming the edge 23.42
I will do more tests to see what the differnce really is with me.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #3 on: Jun 11th, 2003, 1:40pm »

Ok i just did 2 almost perfect laps (for me at least)

Blast Turning- 23.41
Skimming the edge- 23.36

So for me it is 5 hundreds differnce, so maybe for you it can be 1 or 2 hundreds. You may reach your goal of getting a 23.20 to best thoes japs on something
GOOD LUCK!!
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 12th, 2003, 12:47am »

Thanks for the additional info. Keep me posted on your times. I will try this technique soon.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #5 on: Jun 12th, 2003, 11:32am »

If anyone else would like to try this technique and post 1-boost lap times with and without it.

That way we can see what the difference is with someone who is "good" at this game.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #6 on: Jun 12th, 2003, 2:32pm »

Although my time isn't that good, I'll add my two cents on this:

This "new" strat is what I was doing anyway. Touching the dirt on the left to slow you down just enough for a tighter turn is something that I noticed by doing it accidentally over and over, so I started doing it intentionally. It reduces your margin of error (miss to the left and you slow down too much, miss to the right and you swing too wide because you're not preparing to blast turn), but for the top players that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #7 on: Jun 14th, 2003, 12:00pm »

Kev, you said: Instead of Blast Turning on the last turn skim the stuff that slows you down on the left side.

English isn't my first language...could you guys explain me what you mean by "skimming" on the left side? oh...and why left and not right...it should be a shorter path on the right.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #8 on: Jun 14th, 2003, 12:49pm »

Alright,

Well, skimming the outside edge means that you should go over the dirt just enough to slow you down far enough to make the tightest turn possible(could take some practice to get it just right)

I have never tried doing it on the right side, i will try this now
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #9 on: Jun 14th, 2003, 12:59pm »

Meh, I cant do it, perhaps better players will be able to but i cant, so try it and experment with it.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #10 on: Jun 14th, 2003, 11:22pm »

Kev:

Sorry man, I tried your strat but I personally have had no luck. I just don't see how it is possible to make a tight turn without blast turning. I have always tried to skim the rough with the stingray's right wing but just enough to not slow down at all.

Also, I am a little unclear on this "Left" or "Right" side of the rough stuff. What exactly do you mean?
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #11 on: Jun 15th, 2003, 11:50am »

oooh...I get it now...I used to do that when I was in my 1'59"xx's (so not too long ago, hehe), but I never say Rich or the Japanese guy do it on the video, so I thought that it wasn't such a good idea. It is a good idea yes, but in my opinion its less efficient than the traditional way. When your blast turning you sort of have more control on the car. That's my opinion, but it not mean it true, you dig?

Hey Rich, what would you say would be the part of the track most important to a good lap time under 23"30? For a while I kept thinking it was the first three curves but now I'm now that sure...

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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #12 on: Jun 15th, 2003, 7:49pm »

Well then,

Thanks for trying it, at least that is one less strat we need to worry about.

I will of course keep racing and see if i can come up with some more. It will keep me busy during summer vacation!
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #13 on: Jun 16th, 2003, 12:37am »

Al:
The 2 most important parts for low lap times are the final turn and the boost. The boosting technique is far more difficult to master. However, the final turn may be a bit more difficult to do nearly pefect 5 straight laps. The exact time and place in which to fire the boost is crucial.

The first 3 turns can make some difference in your time but not nearly as much as the ones mentioned above.

Hope this helps. Are you re-gaining interest in MC1?
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #14 on: Jun 22nd, 2003, 6:11pm »

Just a quick question for anybody who can answer it:

What is an ideal speed to be at after a perfect double-bump opener on MC1?
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