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The FC IS HORRIBLE (Man this vehicle really sucks)
« Thread started on: Jul 28th, 2003, 9:10pm »

I think we are all in agreement that without being able to take sharp corners with vehicles in this game you cannot get decent times. That is a fact is it not?

Ok here's the deal, I have invested way too much of my time into this vehicle to prove itself to be a decent vehicle. I have been practicing with the FC (On my other friends game) for well over 2 months and have come to the conclusion that this vehicle cannot make sharp turns whatsoever. I understand that You have to adjust yourself to the vehicle at first...But not 2 months...If after 2 months of constant practice (At least 4-5 Hrs a day and I have never once been able to improve my time) and still can't take sharp cornering, then it's now time to just give up on this vehicle. To put it to you Plain and simple: This vehicle sucks on all aspects and i'd rather use the silver thunder because I can at least take sharp corners with that one. Well now that I got that off my chest. I feel better
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Re: The FC IS HORRIBLE (Man this vehicle really su
« Reply #1 on: Jul 28th, 2003, 9:39pm »

Just remember one thing... most of the world records are done with Jet Vermillion and it has the worst handling of them all. You just have to find the right way of doing things
I haven't found it yet, though lol
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 28th, 2003, 10:20pm »

Just a little word of advice, nobody masters a vehicle in 2 months. and statistically FC is the second best vehicle. Ever since i unlocked it i've played with it. it's now been over 2 years and im a master player and almost all my time are with the FC. FC can't be all bad if I hold some amazing times with it. oh, there is no need to play for 5 hours, that will only frustrate u. it takes time. You have a set attitude that i've noticed where if something doesn't go your way u think it sucks. the vehicle doesn't make the times, the player does. Remember that! You have to grow into ur vehicle and i'm sure many people would agree with me on that. in fact i've have grown so into FC that i'm having a hard time switching to JV. In final words, FC is an amazing vehicle, and that's not my oppinion, that's a fact. Just look at the proof!
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Re: The FC IS HORRIBLE (Man this vehicle really su
« Reply #3 on: Jul 28th, 2003, 10:28pm »

Wow nice speech Kevin
I know that FC and JV are the best vehicle, so I sometimes try racing with JV but the fact that I can't control it makes me mad sometimes, but then I remember that I'm just beginning and have a long way to go.
Give it time tx3000 eventually you'll be doing times with FC that'll surprise you. Kevin is right, 5h in a row breaks your concentration and you'll just mess up even more.
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Re: The FC IS HORRIBLE (Man this vehicle really su
« Reply #4 on: Jul 28th, 2003, 10:49pm »

don't listen to them, TK3K! Push through the fifth hour,and don't look up until you reach the eighth!
From there it is only a short step to ten hours.
It is only after you hit the double digits that you can realize your true potential! And remember this old sailor rhyme-
Five or six hours, sharpen your powers-
Twenty or more, WORLD'S BEST SCORE!

This is a classic rhyming song from 17th century British sailors and you know that if they could play F-Zero for that long so can you. I just know in my heart that you can do it, TK.
-If you let up for even a second, that is where you'll finish
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Re: The FC IS HORRIBLE (Man this vehicle really su
« Reply #5 on: Jul 28th, 2003, 11:16pm »

If you can break the 5h barrier without losing concentration and continuosly improving your performance, then my friend, you are truly unique and you're bound to be the greatest player of all times in any and which game you choose to lay your weary hands.

Peace out and don't let them aliens probe you! It's very painfull (yes... I've felt it already).
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 29th, 2003, 08:01am »

For everyone's information I strted out on the chapionship track using FC. So far I haven't been able to get a track total of under 1'50"00. And it's all due to the fact that this vehicle can't do sharp turns. I really wish to god I could put up a video to show you all on what happens when the vehcle turns (Drift turning or not) As a matter of fact, I lost so much control with FC this morning, that when I crossed the finishline I had a fraction of my health left. If I had hit just one more thing even slightly, the FC would have blown up. Also my total time this morning with the FC was 2'50"56. That was due to me slamming into every single wall and getting pushed backward so far, that I kept getting bounced around so much that I Actually had to slam on my brake and come to a complete stop to prevent myself from blowing up.
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Re: The FC IS HORRIBLE (Man this vehicle really su
« Reply #7 on: Jul 29th, 2003, 09:39am »

Are you blast turning at all? Tap the A button repeatidly while turning.
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 29th, 2003, 10:03am »

regarless of how I turn (Drift or blast turning) Doesn't matter the same thing happens to me which is why I said I wish I could put up a video so you all can see what's going on.
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Re: The FC IS HORRIBLE (Man this vehicle really su
« Reply #9 on: Jul 29th, 2003, 10:31am »

Gimme a few days ... sometime this week I can post a Championship replay video with FC. Time will be somewhere in the 1'35 area, I would guess. Haven't tried it yet, so I won't promise anything, but I'm sure I can get well under 1'40 without too much stress.
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Re: The FC IS HORRIBLE (Man this vehicle really su
« Reply #10 on: Jul 29th, 2003, 4:28pm »

if you hadnt play F Zero a lot.. just start with Wind Walker... Get some experise... then go to Falcon Mk II then Fighting Comet then Jet Vermilion LAST!!! It takes months to to improve your driving skill...Just do not rush or skip!!!! When I first start i was like almost way bottom...then I going up to under 100....in half of year.
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 29th, 2003, 8:42pm »

Save ur time and please don't post any of ur videos! U keep complaining that no matter what u do u can't even break 1' 50 or 2'50 with FC because u claim it can't turn. I'll say this for the LAST time. The player makes the turn and not the car!! I do 1'30''xx with FC so i guess that FC is good, or maybe it's just me. Oh, and keep this in mind, there are plenty of people who with FC can cream me with a time near 1'27''xx or better. So just please stop writing messages about how much a car suck, becasuse it's not the car!!!...
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Re: The FC IS HORRIBLE (Man this vehicle really su
« Reply #12 on: Jul 29th, 2003, 8:48pm »

OH, i think i over exagerated. There is no one in the list that has done a 1'27 performance with FC in championship mode because as it stands I have the best time with FC at 1'30''58. But still, withy FC u can still go way under 1'50.....................it takes time
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Re: The FC IS HORRIBLE (Man this vehicle really su
« Reply #13 on: Jul 30th, 2003, 02:07am »

It's gonna take me a little longer than I thought to make the video because I didn't realize that even in a 2nd file on the same cartridge, you still have only ONE Championship Replay ... the best time on the entire cartridge. So I'm going to purchase another GBA F-Zero for the purpose of making videos with vehicles other than JV. But it will have to wait until Friday, which is when I get paid next. So it will be at least Sunday or Monday before I could possibly get to making that FC video. Sorry about the delay.
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« Reply #14 on: Aug 13th, 2003, 10:33am »

Well, I know I'm no master (Well, Master C ) but here's my story:
I entered competition on May 16th of this year, I think in place number 179. I had only just unlocked the Queen cup and run through it once. The following week I did not compete at all and dropped to 183. During that week though I had unlocked the Fighting Comet, let me tell you a few things about it:

Cornering is not as grand as it could be, yet when one uses a slide turn, it can do pretty good! But not on ice, that's what I assume your problem is on Championship.

Using the Fighting Comet, I played about 8 hours that week and by next update had moved into 93 (a 90 place jump!) So it didn't take long at all to get into the top 100. My goal was to get into the top 60 (first page). I "adopted" Dave Phaneuf as my personal rival and started trying to beat all of his times. The next few weeks went pretty slowly (as I was busy) but finally I made it onto the first page.

I adapt to ships pretty quickly I guess, like I said, I'm no master, but what I did between May 16th and now (less than three months) was pretty much get used to the Fighting Comet and the Jet Vermillion. I used no other ship to get ANY of my current times. The Fighting Comet is good for certain levels (remember, this is my personal opinion) such the Cloud Carpet levels, and Loop Circuit etc. (I have them all written down) but the Jet Vermillion is great for a lot of levels as well (levels with mines and lots of zippers like Crossroads Circuit). The benefit of the Fighting Comet is it's boost (which lasts 11 seconds I believe) and on top of that, most ships will slow down very quickly after their boost wears out, yet both the Fighting Comet AND the Jet Vermillion have incredible COASTING power! The Fighting Comet can take the long jumps with ease, while the Jet Vermillion (being awfully heavy) er, plummets to the ground very quickly.

Some tecniques that I learned through these last three months:
First I was just turning with the Shoulder Buttons and the d-pad, then I realized that I could turn a lot sharper with tapping A (Blast Turn). After going for a while like that, I learned how to use the Slide (or Drift) turn on Pawn 1 with the FC. This opened the door for the Jet Vermillion (which I absolutely detested before) and I used that to get quite a bit of times. The very first week I had the Fighting Comet (like I said before) I jumped from 183 to 93 place. So using the slide turns with the JV opened a whole new world of fast times.
Then I realized that with the JV especially, I could get about 2 seconds cut off my first lap by using an opponent. That cut more time off my levels.
A while later I figured out that I could strafe! This is one of the most important tecniques in my opinion, and if you do not know it, try Tightrope circuit and practice for a while, switching from L-strafe to R-strafe and all over the place, it really cuts at least a half second per lap and possibly more on the first lap! So I beneifited greatly from learning that (being a former GE player like Wes McKinney and Derek Kisman, it was easy to adapt to strafing). I think after that it was just practice and practice on each level.

I don't think I ever spent more than half an hour on any given level at one time, I estimate I played oh, somehwere between 30-40 hours total on this game since I got it (no brag, just fact) and really enjoyed it.

I would recommend that you try out the JV on Championship. It turns marvellously on ice! (Do NOT slide-turn on ice, just use the Blast Turn and you'll be shocked I'm sure!). The only big thing you have to get used to with it is the Slide-turning, which you reallly, really need to master this vehicle.
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