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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #49 on: Jun 27th, 2003, 5:20pm »

I"m glad I could help djungleurban, but I'm sure it's mostly thanks to Rich if you got that time...I haven't really said anything too helpfull in this forum.

Although...i may be able to help now:

Just a quick question...how exactly do you take the corner just before the dirt patches? (tell me if you let go fo the accelerator and then steer or whatever you do, heh), because that is a difficult and important part of the lap.

Also...taking the last curve as close to the dirtpaches as possible is very important as well...but easier to do. I usually tap the accelerator 3 times on that curve, that should be enough.

I don't know if this may help...but I learned a while back that "strafing" slows you down, so when you want to move close to the rail steer slightly towards it instead of strafing. When I used to strafe I could never get less than 23"30, instead now I can get easily 23"26, which is also my best one boost lap.

Tell me if it helps!
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #50 on: Jun 27th, 2003, 9:10pm »

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Are you actually telling me that you can get 23"26 70% of the time but have never gone lower? That does not make much sense.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #51 on: Jun 27th, 2003, 9:20pm »

Kev:

I will pass this plate at about 14"20 on a good run. I think this will help identify your problem. It has to be either in your boosing technique or dirt patch technique.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #52 on: Jun 27th, 2003, 9:41pm »

How does it not make sense? It seems pretty obvious to me...I'm able to perform my best one lap boost 70% of the times. I have never done any lower so far, and yet I get 23"26 at least once per run if not twice.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #53 on: Jun 28th, 2003, 12:24am »

Once a race would be 1/4 or 25%. Twice a race would be 50%. Where do you get 70%? However, it is still hard to beleive that you could get 23"26 that frequently and never knock even a hundreth of a second off your time. It sounds like your doing a flawed race perfectly, if that makes sense.

Too give you a comparison, I personnally have accomplished my best single boost lap time (23"22), ONCE. I have never even tied it. I have only gotten maybe three 23"23's. 23"24's and 23"25's are much easier to come by.

Another very important question: What is your best final 4 lap average time? In other words, what were your times for your fastest 4 laps in a row in the same race? This is an important statistic that I hope you track.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #54 on: Jun 28th, 2003, 06:23am »

on Jun 27th, 2003, 5:20pm, Top Speed wrote:
I"m glad I could help djungleurban, but I'm sure it's mostly thanks to Rich if you got that time...I haven't really said anything too helpfull in this forum.

Actually, it's was you that helped me. You mentioned that you only cut the second dirt patch, so I tried that and that help me lowering my time quite a bit, don't you agree?

And conserning then question, was that for me or for Rich...
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #55 on: Jun 28th, 2003, 11:17am »

djungleurba the question was for you.

Rich. Ok so maybe it no 70%, but I get it frequent, that's for sure. I'm telling ya...I never got any lower and I get 23"26 frequent now. Only two things I have to point out: 1) I didn't get one on my current best time, but that was over a week ago, and I start pulling out 23"26's after like 2 days later (I didn't lower my time from that yet cuz I hadn't got a good enough starter lap) 2) I gotta find another controller somewhere because I "accidentally" broke my last one after losing...um....a race...heh. So I won't be able to play for maybe another 3-4 days.

MCI time split: 1)25"66 2)23"30 3)23"30 4)23"30 5)23"27 ---> 1'58"85

That's my current time and it's 12 hundreths lower than my older one. I feel that if I give it a shot this coming week, I can be in the 1'58"7x zone (and say bye bye to the bergeron brothers, yey!)

Oh...by the way...your telling me that this WHOLE time you've been bragging about a SINGLE 23"22 Well shucks...everyone gets a little lucky. I thought you could pull it off every once and a while...like every other race.

Oh...by the way...I saw your 1'58"60 time...and I kept forgetting to ask you something. I noticed that there's a lap where you accidentally took the jump and that gave you a slower lap time. How come you never bothered to try redoing it? You probably have the capability to go 1'58"57 or something.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #56 on: Jun 28th, 2003, 9:35pm »

on Jun 28th, 2003, 11:17am, Top Speed wrote:
Oh...by the way...your telling me that this WHOLE time you've been bragging about a SINGLE 23"22 Well shucks...everyone gets a little lucky. I thought you could pull it off every once and a while...like every other race.



Yes that is correct and that is exactly why I have been bragging about that lap. If it was easy enough to do frequently, I would be bragging about a 23"21 or 23"20.
Do you have any idea how much of a skill difference there is between even a 23"25 and a 23"23 or 23"22. More than you can imagine!!!

That lap I took the jump was a complete mistake. I came around the third turn to wide after zoning out for a second, and then figured...what the heck..take the jump and see what happens. As you can see, it was a pretty bad lap.

I have calculated my potential best time for a "Great Race" race and I have come up with a time of 1"58"48.
I would start with a 25"46 first lap and then average 23"255 per the final 4 laps. Both things I have done before but never in the same race.

My "Perfect" race would be my personnel best fastest first lap followed by my fastest 4 single boost laps and would have the following breakdown:

1) 25"46
2) 23"23
3) 23"23
4) 23"23
5) 23"22
Total: 1'58"37

There is still much room for improvement on that first lap.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #57 on: Jun 28th, 2003, 10:54pm »

what's the first lap best you've ever heard of so far?
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #58 on: Jun 28th, 2003, 11:13pm »

25"46... definetly room for improvement.

What's yours?
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #59 on: Jun 29th, 2003, 08:19am »

on Jun 27th, 2003, 5:20pm, Top Speed wrote:
Just a quick question...how exactly do you take the corner just before the dirt patches? (tell me if you let go fo the accelerator and then steer or whatever you do, heh), because that is a difficult and important part of the lap.

You mean turn 3, right?
Anyway, in that corner I usually try to keep my car 1-1,5 carwidth from the right barrier and then cut the corner as tight as possible. I'm always using the tapping technique, besides on the first lap where I just turn normally (the speed isn't more then 435-445 so it isn't really necessary). That's the theory atleast. But tend to screw up things all the freaking time so sometimes I just drift out far far away and sometimes I cut the corner too much so I end up in the barrier instead...

But that's basically it...
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #60 on: Jun 29th, 2003, 2:12pm »

DJ: That's not what he is asking? What do yo do right before the dirt patches to get into the position of going through them, I think is the question.
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #61 on: Jun 29th, 2003, 3:30pm »

Yeah...I meant what rich said

Rich my best so far is 25"66. But if 25"4x is the best you ever done or ever heard of...how do you know there's room for improvement? Exactly what do you have to improve on to go a 25"3x?
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #62 on: Jun 29th, 2003, 11:26pm »

I have only broken into the 25"4x's about 10 times. Most of these times had some flaws that could be improved on. Several times, I lost speed going through the rough patches. Other times, I took a couple of the turns too wide.

I am very confident that a time of 25"40 could be acheived. Below that, is pushing it. However, everything must come together pefectly including going through both of the rough patches without losing any speed at all. Also, I think one of the japs claimed to have done a 25"40.

25'66 is not bad for only going through 1 rough patch. You should be able to cut off about a tenth of second by just going through both patches. If you can do that and then average 23"26 per lap, you would have the following race:

1) 25"56
2) 23"26
3) 23"26
4) 23"26
5) 23"26
Total: 1'58"60 ...... ah.. that sounds familiar
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Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
« Reply #63 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 11:02am »

Have either of you ever tried doing a fast lap using 4 boosts, i spent the last week doing them and came up with a 22.53 as my best time. You two should be able to improve of that and beat Leo's record.
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