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Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 11th, 2003, 12:38am

Kev:

Thank you, Finally a breath of fresh air!!! I am glad that you are smart enough to see that all of the "talking" I do about MC1 is so that these guys can get better. I know I brag alot. I do it intentionally. Trust me, it is nothing personnel against anybody. It is all apart of the fun of the game.

Haven't you guys ever heard about great athletes "trash talking" their opponents in order to gain an edge? Michael Jordan is a great example of this. He never meant it personnally. It was just apart of his game.

And to Barry: Come on man, someone finally says something nice and even provides a new strat and you lock the thread. Now that is funny... don't you think?
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 11th, 2003, 12:50am

Also Kev:

That strat you gave on the last thread "Mute City I Challenge Cont." is extremely interesting.

I have never tried that strat nor have I ever seen it mentioned. However, if you do your power turning well without hitting the rough, you can keep your speed up at 470 km/h. I found that the ideal turning speed was 467 km/h at the lowest point. This allows your car to shave the edges around the rough.

I will definetly try this strat to see if it can be utilized. By the way, what is your best single-boost lap time with and without using this strat. What is your best overall time?

I am glad that you have benefited from my previous strat talk and again, thanks for the new strat idea.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 11th, 2003, 1:31pm

Well, my times arent that great, my 5 lap time is 1:59.60. I never really recorded my best boost lap times. I just raced one right now and did both, blast turning and skimming the outside edge and making the turn that way.
Blast Turning- 23.53
Skimming the edge 23.42
I will do more tests to see what the differnce really is with me.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 11th, 2003, 1:40pm

Ok i just did 2 almost perfect laps (for me at least)

Blast Turning- 23.41
Skimming the edge- 23.36

So for me it is 5 hundreds differnce, so maybe for you it can be 1 or 2 hundreds. You may reach your goal of getting a 23.20 to best thoes japs on something
GOOD LUCK!!

Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 12th, 2003, 12:47am

Thanks for the additional info. Keep me posted on your times. I will try this technique soon.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 12th, 2003, 11:32am

If anyone else would like to try this technique and post 1-boost lap times with and without it.

That way we can see what the difference is with someone who is "good" at this game.

Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Webmaster on Jun 12th, 2003, 2:32pm

Although my time isn't that good, I'll add my two cents on this:

This "new" strat is what I was doing anyway. Touching the dirt on the left to slow you down just enough for a tighter turn is something that I noticed by doing it accidentally over and over, so I started doing it intentionally. It reduces your margin of error (miss to the left and you slow down too much, miss to the right and you swing too wide because you're not preparing to blast turn), but for the top players that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Dave
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 14th, 2003, 12:00pm

Kev, you said: Instead of Blast Turning on the last turn skim the stuff that slows you down on the left side.

English isn't my first language...could you guys explain me what you mean by "skimming" on the left side? oh...and why left and not right...it should be a shorter path on the right.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 14th, 2003, 12:49pm

Alright,

Well, skimming the outside edge means that you should go over the dirt just enough to slow you down far enough to make the tightest turn possible(could take some practice to get it just right)

I have never tried doing it on the right side, i will try this now
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 14th, 2003, 12:59pm

Meh, I cant do it, perhaps better players will be able to but i cant, so try it and experment with it.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 14th, 2003, 11:22pm

Kev:

Sorry man, I tried your strat but I personally have had no luck. I just don't see how it is possible to make a tight turn without blast turning. I have always tried to skim the rough with the stingray's right wing but just enough to not slow down at all.

Also, I am a little unclear on this "Left" or "Right" side of the rough stuff. What exactly do you mean?
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed in third gear on Jun 15th, 2003, 11:50am

oooh...I get it now...I used to do that when I was in my 1'59"xx's (so not too long ago, hehe), but I never say Rich or the Japanese guy do it on the video, so I thought that it wasn't such a good idea. It is a good idea yes, but in my opinion its less efficient than the traditional way. When your blast turning you sort of have more control on the car. That's my opinion, but it not mean it true, you dig?

Hey Rich, what would you say would be the part of the track most important to a good lap time under 23"30? For a while I kept thinking it was the first three curves but now I'm now that sure...

Al
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 15th, 2003, 7:49pm

Well then,

Thanks for trying it, at least that is one less strat we need to worry about.

I will of course keep racing and see if i can come up with some more. It will keep me busy during summer vacation!
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 16th, 2003, 12:37am

Al:
The 2 most important parts for low lap times are the final turn and the boost. The boosting technique is far more difficult to master. However, the final turn may be a bit more difficult to do nearly pefect 5 straight laps. The exact time and place in which to fire the boost is crucial.

The first 3 turns can make some difference in your time but not nearly as much as the ones mentioned above.

Hope this helps. Are you re-gaining interest in MC1?
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 22nd, 2003, 6:11pm

Just a quick question for anybody who can answer it:

What is an ideal speed to be at after a perfect double-bump opener on MC1?
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 22nd, 2003, 9:32pm

I usually average 430 kph with a double bump. But there have been ocasions where I was bumped to 440 and once 445 (I'm guessing a glitch). Hey be sure to go in the racharging zone before the second bump by the way.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 22nd, 2003, 10:36pm

427 km/h
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 23rd, 2003, 10:29am

Thanks,

For some reason I cant get my 1st lap time down to below 25.8x.
When i did a 25.8x i dropped down to about 460 driving through the dirt. I just dont get why i camt get my 1st lap time down to 25.5x. Any Advice?

Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 23rd, 2003, 10:48am

Top Speed,

I dont think that the 445 speed is a glitch in the game becasuse i just did one too. I cant explain how. I will continue doing it and find out how i did it.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 23rd, 2003, 2:00pm

I think it's just how the golden fox hits you I guess...but its a really lucky shot, I don't expect I'll ever be able to do it again lol.
Do you drive through both patches? Cuz I'm not expert enough to do that yet, so I go through just the second patch. You should be ok if your speed is in the 460 zone, cuz you should be able to hit a 25"8x with at least 450+. If your gonna go for a 1'58"xx i'd suggest to get into the 25"7x. You'll be there soon, don't worry. Besides you got Rich here to help ya.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 23rd, 2003, 3:47pm

I think i have just noticed something that you all probably already know. The double-bump opener isnt just about the hightest speed you can acheive it is also how fast the Golden Fox catches back up with you.

Top Speed said that an ideal speed after a double bump was around 440, but Rich said that it was 427, and Rich, as the Mute City 1 Master, is right as usual. To get the top times on your 1st lap an ideal double-bump opener is vital, and although getting your speed up to 440 is nice, after the 1st bump it take a while for the Golden Fox to catch back up with you to give you another bump. Rich said that 427 is an ideal speed which means that is the speed that offers the shortest amount of waiting time between the 1st bump and the 2nd bump.

Also I do drive through both patches and the reason above is why I have only been acheiving 25.8x.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 23rd, 2003, 6:59pm

Also, what is the point of swerving into the recharge area after the 1st bump in your double bump opener?

Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Webmaster on Jun 23rd, 2003, 7:27pm

on Jun 23rd, 2003, 6:59pm, KevtwoD2 wrote:
Also, what is the point of swerving into the recharge area after the 1st bump in your double bump opener?

So that Golden Fox catches back up to you MUCH more quickly. It definitely provides a faster first lap than just driving ahead until the opponent catches up.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by RunAwayWojo on Jun 23rd, 2003, 9:22pm

Is it better to hit or miss the jump on Mute City 1? I've tried both and it doesn't seem to effect my time that much. Then again I haven't broke 2'00 yet but I'm close.

Also, anyone have any good tips for Silence? I've gotten down to a 1'57 but I can't seem to break that.


Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 23rd, 2003, 9:42pm

I didn't say 440, I said 430 which is not much more than 427. 440 only happends on lucky days, but usually only once.

Runaway if you want silence strategies, check out the strategy folder and look for "silence". If that doesn't help then describe your strategy first.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 23rd, 2003, 10:53pm

on Jun 23rd, 2003, 3:47pm, KevtwoD2 wrote:
Top Speed said that an ideal speed after a double bump was around 440, but Rich said that it was 427, and Rich, as the Mute City 1 Master, is right as usual. Rich said that 427 is an ideal speed which means that is the speed that offers the shortest amount of waiting time between the 1st bump and the 2nd bump.



Kev: You are exactly right. The faster the 2nd bump the better. I have had thousands of 2nd bumps, but I never once remember being boosted to over 440 unless the bump came too late in the race course. By that time, you have spent too much time traveling below 400 to acheive a good time on the 1st lap.

Swirving into the power up zone before the 2nd bump will save you about 5 hundreths of a second.

Getting a 25"5x or 25"4x on the 1st lap is no easy feat. A 25"5x is possible even if you drop down to 460 km/h going through the dirt patches, but if you lose that much speed, the rest of the lap will have to be perfect. Your goal should be not to lose any speeed. Keep it at 478 km/h.

Rich
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 24th, 2003, 10:14am

Thanks,

The main reason that i lose speed is because after i do the 1st patch perfectly i can not get over to the second patch fast enough so i loose some speed running over dirt as i get over. Do you sometimes have this same problem?
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 24th, 2003, 10:22am

Also,
Runaway:

It is only faster to hit the jump if your speed is below 478km/h otherwise just skip it. Also of your first lap it is much easier to cut off the dirt patches without taking the jump.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 24th, 2003, 10:35am

WOW!!

I have just hit 435 before the 1st turn. After teh first hit you swerve into the charge up area, then keep to teh left side of the track. When the CHECK sign is flashing really fast make a hard right and have the Golden Fox hit you on the right side of your car. If you can keep control after this bump your speed should be around 435.

By the way, if i am just pointing out things that everyone on the board already knows just tell me and i will keep my findings to myslef.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by RunAwayWojo on Jun 24th, 2003, 11:09am

I've been trying to slip through the dirt but I haven't made it cleanly through both yet. Is there a trick to sliding through there or is it just trial and error. If it's trial and error I have the error part down pat...lol
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 24th, 2003, 12:24pm

Lol...yeah...basically you just gotta learn the right timing. I can't do it either...i just go through the second one (shh don't tell anyone)
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by RunAwayWojo on Jun 24th, 2003, 1:12pm

I usually give it three or four tries and then go on to another race. Playing one race too many times in a row will cause a meltdown. The most frustrating race for me is Silence, cause you need alot of things to go right to get a good time. I try to only play for about 20-30 minutes at a time to prevent my head from exploding.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 24th, 2003, 2:11pm

Lol...this has nothing to do with the topic, but I just recognized your little motto under your name: "Ludacris speed...go!!!" Space Balls rulz! lol.

I like it when Dark Helmet says "Ah, buckle this!" and "we're surrounded by a$$h*les!"

anyways...yeah...my hardest and most comsuming track would be firefield at the moment...I'm ok with my other times...but I wan't to lower my silence into the 1'52"xx zone before I die...thats one of my "life goals" lol.
Bye!
Al

"You have the ring...and I see that your Schwartz is as big as mine"
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by RunAwayWojo on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:02pm

Well I just ran some MC1 and tried to slide through the dirt area and let me say that if I ever need to induce an aneurysm I now know how.

After that I calmed myself by playing some Silence. After being bumped directly into the wall, foolishly I might add, I quit before another blood vessel popped in my already trouble brain.

My goal right now is to get my MC1 and WL1 below 2'00. I just got my Silence under 2'00 last night with a 1'57"46 or something like that off the top of my head. I used to have all those kinds of times but my original F-Zero is MIA so for now I'm starting over. I see some flashes of my old brilliance, I just need some practice to remove my rust.

As for Spaceballs, it is one of the best movies ever. I felt I needed a quote involving speed for and F-Zero board and it sounded good. There's a store around here called the Buckle and one time I was in there twirling my keys around and the girl working there told me I might hurt someone. I looked at her and blurted out, "Ah, buckle this." Not often you get to use that line in your everyday life.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 24th, 2003, 10:02pm

RunAway:

If you think just trying to get through those dirt patches cleanly will make you go nuts, just wait until you actually make it through perfectly going 478 km/h and then screw up later in the race. Now that really will drive you insane. Trust Me...

Kev and RunAway: Can you give us your best MC1 time and best single boost lap to date?
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by RunAwayWojo on Jun 24th, 2003, 10:45pm

My best MC1 time is 2'00"14 and lap is 23"39. Nothing to hold a parade over but I sleep well at night.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 25th, 2003, 6:16pm

LOL!!!

I haven't actually finnished a race since my last updated time. I have been working on my 1st lap and the 1-lap. 1st lap time-25.81
1-Boost Lap time-23.30
I feel if i can get my 1st lap time down i could go under 1:59.

Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 25th, 2003, 6:22pm

That time being 1:59.60 as i said in a previous post.

Also Top Speed,

You said that on your first lap you only go through the second patch of dirt, what is your best first lap time doing that? This way if it is lower than my first lap time i can also use that method.

Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed can run 20 mphyea on Jun 25th, 2003, 10:48pm

The best run I can remember on top of my head right now is 25"66. Once I get my time under 1'58"80 then I'm gonna start learning to go through both patches. Its a matter of 0"05 seconds now, hehe.

Oh...and you shouldn't listen to Rich Luke. He smells too bad. Just kidding Rich!
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 26th, 2003, 12:50am

Kev:
I too have also tried just going through the 2nd patch. However, this is not that much easier. The best I ever did with this method is 25"62. However, my best lap ever (going through both patches) is 25"46.

Also, I used to practice alot without going through the patches at all. Just going aound them, I have done a 25"74 on the 1st lap. It should not be all that difficult to break 25"80 on a consistent basis without even going through the patches.

Don't focus too much on the 1st lap. Too go under 1"59'00, you will need to average a minimum of 23"33 for each of the final 4 laps even if get a first lap of say.... 25"5x. The other laps are very important too. You must keep all of your racing skills sharp in order for the "perfect" race to take place.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 26th, 2003, 01:40am

hey by the way rich...I can average laps of 23"26 now...getting closer to the big 23"22, hehe.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 26th, 2003, 08:56am

I just tried not going through any patches and i got a 26.16, the rest of my laps were 23.38, 23.36, 23.34, 23.35 which is a 1.59.59 new PR but only by 1 hundreth of a second, not much to brag about.

I just do not understand why i cant get my 1st lap time down it is starting to drive me insane!!!!
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 26th, 2003, 1:38pm

Like Rich said...don't just focus on the first lap...try to get a clean and stead run first
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 26th, 2003, 10:21pm

It is hard not to when you come out of the dirt patches going 450km/h and still win up doing a 26.xx!!!!!!

Especially with people saying that they can do a 25.7x without going through any dirt parches!

Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 26th, 2003, 11:58pm

Kev:
If you come out of the dirt patches going only 450 km/h, that pretty much defeats the purpose. A speed of 450 km/h will produce about the same time as just going around the dirt patches.

Just looking at your 5-lap breakdown of times, it sounds as if you have a flaw in your boosting technique (getting 2 bumps from the Golden Fox at the beginning of the race).
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 27th, 2003, 12:01am

Top Speed:

Can you give us your 4 final laps when you averaged 23"26 per lap? What is you fastest single boost lap to date? Have you done 23"23 yet?
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 27th, 2003, 03:42am

no..its 23"26. I haven't gotten any lower yet...but in the mean time I can pull it 7 out of 10 times.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jun 27th, 2003, 4:39pm

What is you guys exact time as you pass the jump plate on your first lap? (i am trying to see where i lose my time. My exact time as i pass it is 14.54.

Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by djungelurban on Jun 27th, 2003, 4:41pm

Thanks for the tips Aliek, it has really helped alot... Got a new record about 10 minutes ago... The lap break down is:
34''58
31''16
31''34 (dammit)
31''10 (WOHO!!)
31''28 (dammit again)
total: 2'39''46

It's pretty good in my opinion, if I just didn't do those darn mistakes all the freaking time... *sigh*
31''10 is 23''33 in NTSC time...
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 27th, 2003, 5:20pm

I"m glad I could help djungleurban, but I'm sure it's mostly thanks to Rich if you got that time...I haven't really said anything too helpfull in this forum.

Although...i may be able to help now:

Just a quick question...how exactly do you take the corner just before the dirt patches? (tell me if you let go fo the accelerator and then steer or whatever you do, heh), because that is a difficult and important part of the lap.

Also...taking the last curve as close to the dirtpaches as possible is very important as well...but easier to do. I usually tap the accelerator 3 times on that curve, that should be enough.

I don't know if this may help...but I learned a while back that "strafing" slows you down, so when you want to move close to the rail steer slightly towards it instead of strafing. When I used to strafe I could never get less than 23"30, instead now I can get easily 23"26, which is also my best one boost lap.

Tell me if it helps!
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 27th, 2003, 9:10pm

Top Speed:

Are you actually telling me that you can get 23"26 70% of the time but have never gone lower? That does not make much sense.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 27th, 2003, 9:20pm

Kev:

I will pass this plate at about 14"20 on a good run. I think this will help identify your problem. It has to be either in your boosing technique or dirt patch technique.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 27th, 2003, 9:41pm

How does it not make sense? It seems pretty obvious to me...I'm able to perform my best one lap boost 70% of the times. I have never done any lower so far, and yet I get 23"26 at least once per run if not twice.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 28th, 2003, 12:24am

Once a race would be 1/4 or 25%. Twice a race would be 50%. Where do you get 70%? However, it is still hard to beleive that you could get 23"26 that frequently and never knock even a hundreth of a second off your time. It sounds like your doing a flawed race perfectly, if that makes sense.

Too give you a comparison, I personnally have accomplished my best single boost lap time (23"22), ONCE. I have never even tied it. I have only gotten maybe three 23"23's. 23"24's and 23"25's are much easier to come by.

Another very important question: What is your best final 4 lap average time? In other words, what were your times for your fastest 4 laps in a row in the same race? This is an important statistic that I hope you track.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by djungelurban on Jun 28th, 2003, 06:23am

on Jun 27th, 2003, 5:20pm, Top Speed wrote:
I"m glad I could help djungleurban, but I'm sure it's mostly thanks to Rich if you got that time...I haven't really said anything too helpfull in this forum.

Actually, it's was you that helped me. You mentioned that you only cut the second dirt patch, so I tried that and that help me lowering my time quite a bit, don't you agree?

And conserning then question, was that for me or for Rich...
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 28th, 2003, 11:17am

djungleurba the question was for you.

Rich. Ok so maybe it no 70%, but I get it frequent, that's for sure. I'm telling ya...I never got any lower and I get 23"26 frequent now. Only two things I have to point out: 1) I didn't get one on my current best time, but that was over a week ago, and I start pulling out 23"26's after like 2 days later (I didn't lower my time from that yet cuz I hadn't got a good enough starter lap) 2) I gotta find another controller somewhere because I "accidentally" broke my last one after losing...um....a race...heh. So I won't be able to play for maybe another 3-4 days.

MCI time split: 1)25"66 2)23"30 3)23"30 4)23"30 5)23"27 ---> 1'58"85

That's my current time and it's 12 hundreths lower than my older one. I feel that if I give it a shot this coming week, I can be in the 1'58"7x zone (and say bye bye to the bergeron brothers, yey!)

Oh...by the way...your telling me that this WHOLE time you've been bragging about a SINGLE 23"22 Well shucks...everyone gets a little lucky. I thought you could pull it off every once and a while...like every other race.

Oh...by the way...I saw your 1'58"60 time...and I kept forgetting to ask you something. I noticed that there's a lap where you accidentally took the jump and that gave you a slower lap time. How come you never bothered to try redoing it? You probably have the capability to go 1'58"57 or something.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 28th, 2003, 9:35pm

on Jun 28th, 2003, 11:17am, Top Speed wrote:
Oh...by the way...your telling me that this WHOLE time you've been bragging about a SINGLE 23"22 Well shucks...everyone gets a little lucky. I thought you could pull it off every once and a while...like every other race.



Yes that is correct and that is exactly why I have been bragging about that lap. If it was easy enough to do frequently, I would be bragging about a 23"21 or 23"20.
Do you have any idea how much of a skill difference there is between even a 23"25 and a 23"23 or 23"22. More than you can imagine!!!

That lap I took the jump was a complete mistake. I came around the third turn to wide after zoning out for a second, and then figured...what the heck..take the jump and see what happens. As you can see, it was a pretty bad lap.

I have calculated my potential best time for a "Great Race" race and I have come up with a time of 1"58"48.
I would start with a 25"46 first lap and then average 23"255 per the final 4 laps. Both things I have done before but never in the same race.

My "Perfect" race would be my personnel best fastest first lap followed by my fastest 4 single boost laps and would have the following breakdown:

1) 25"46
2) 23"23
3) 23"23
4) 23"23
5) 23"22
Total: 1'58"37

There is still much room for improvement on that first lap.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 28th, 2003, 10:54pm

what's the first lap best you've ever heard of so far?
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 28th, 2003, 11:13pm

25"46... definetly room for improvement.

What's yours?
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by djungelurban on Jun 29th, 2003, 08:19am

on Jun 27th, 2003, 5:20pm, Top Speed wrote:
Just a quick question...how exactly do you take the corner just before the dirt patches? (tell me if you let go fo the accelerator and then steer or whatever you do, heh), because that is a difficult and important part of the lap.

You mean turn 3, right?
Anyway, in that corner I usually try to keep my car 1-1,5 carwidth from the right barrier and then cut the corner as tight as possible. I'm always using the tapping technique, besides on the first lap where I just turn normally (the speed isn't more then 435-445 so it isn't really necessary). That's the theory atleast. But tend to screw up things all the freaking time so sometimes I just drift out far far away and sometimes I cut the corner too much so I end up in the barrier instead...

But that's basically it...
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 29th, 2003, 2:12pm

DJ: That's not what he is asking? What do yo do right before the dirt patches to get into the position of going through them, I think is the question.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jun 29th, 2003, 3:30pm

Yeah...I meant what rich said

Rich my best so far is 25"66. But if 25"4x is the best you ever done or ever heard of...how do you know there's room for improvement? Exactly what do you have to improve on to go a 25"3x?
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jun 29th, 2003, 11:26pm

I have only broken into the 25"4x's about 10 times. Most of these times had some flaws that could be improved on. Several times, I lost speed going through the rough patches. Other times, I took a couple of the turns too wide.

I am very confident that a time of 25"40 could be acheived. Below that, is pushing it. However, everything must come together pefectly including going through both of the rough patches without losing any speed at all. Also, I think one of the japs claimed to have done a 25"40.

25'66 is not bad for only going through 1 rough patch. You should be able to cut off about a tenth of second by just going through both patches. If you can do that and then average 23"26 per lap, you would have the following race:

1) 25"56
2) 23"26
3) 23"26
4) 23"26
5) 23"26
Total: 1'58"60 ...... ah.. that sounds familiar

Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jul 3rd, 2003, 11:02am

Have either of you ever tried doing a fast lap using 4 boosts, i spent the last week doing them and came up with a 22.53 as my best time. You two should be able to improve of that and beat Leo's record.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Top Speed on Jul 4th, 2003, 02:10am

rich I'll give it a shot as soon as I can find a new controller...the local store has cheap plastic lookalikes but no originals...grrrr!!!!...I'll settle for one of those if I can't find anything else.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jul 4th, 2003, 4:49pm

Major setback... that's tough

Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jul 6th, 2003, 01:03am

Nope...never tried fast laps. Dont think I would want to or even could beat that 22.48 of Leo's. Besides, whats the point. A single-lap fast time is far more important in my opinion.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by KevtwoD2 on Jul 6th, 2003, 5:49pm

I agree that single boost lap times are better and also agree that 23.22 for a single boost lap is alot harder to do than a 22.48 for a fast lap, but this site dont keep single boost lap records so if you can get the record why not try?

Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Rich Luke on Jul 7th, 2003, 11:17pm

maybe i will sometime
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Joemst13 on Aug 18th, 2003, 11:21am

It would be real hard to keep tabs on a single boost lap category. The game tracks the fastest possible lap, which is a 3.999999999 boost lap. Although single boost laps do not have their own rankings, their importance is included in your overall track time, just like your first-lap time, which is also essential to a good track time. If you care anything about overall rankings, you have to get the fastest times using all allowable means possible. Is there a video available of Horry's record run? We ALL moved down a spot this week, well except DVM and LR, hehe.
Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Tonio on Aug 19th, 2003, 10:26pm

hehe, sorry I encouraged Horry a little to join the competition here and to use his real name.

Re: Mute City I - New Strat?
Post by Webmaster on Aug 20th, 2003, 3:11pm

on Aug 19th, 2003, 10:26pm, Tonio wrote:
hehe, sorry I encouraged Horry a little to join the competition here and to use his real name.

Antoine, your help is GREATLY appreciated.