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Dominic
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #33 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 8:39pm » |
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Yeah!!! Screw DAKOU!
Cool, so how is the game now that you can see stuff?
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #34 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 04:34am » |
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That video link doesnt work anymore. Anyone found an alternative video please? Also, you say you're just not going to use this technique, but wouldnt you accidently employ it while in a sliding setting and sliding rapidly between some corners, ie the sudden change in sliding direction would kick in a small speed boost? I hope this "bug" is removed from the PAL version
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #35 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 06:19am » |
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you can go on my website, i put the clip on my FTP
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fzerogx/3d75bdbfcb61.avi
Maybe we should vote, "Do you want this dakou trick to be granted or not for time attack on F Zero central if not removed" What s the webmaster's opinion?
It seems that most of us consider like a cheat that kills the game. Even if i heard some people say DTD was cheat , you couldn t perform it all the race! That's what made a race so exciting, failing at only one DTD could kill your race time^^
What's your opinion about
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Mach1 軋 va, Mach3 bonjour les d馮穰s!
F zero x rank EXPERT B 1st French 12th PAL 19th overall
I just went 1594 kmh PAl on silence!!! I can t beat MC ghost! Why? What 's wrong in my race strategy?
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Dominic
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #36 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 06:26am » |
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Those dive moves in X were intelligent because they involved a risk, Dakou involves NO RISK AT ALL, I don't see how this is not a cheat
man, gotta keep E-mailing NOA...
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #37 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 08:24am » |
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on Aug 2nd, 2003, 04:34am, Nick wrote:Also, you say you're just not going to use this technique, but wouldnt you accidently employ it while in a sliding setting and sliding rapidly between some corners, ie the sudden change in sliding direction would kick in a small speed boost? |
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Hm, that's right. So maybe sliding should banned at all!? I don't know if sliding(L+left ; R+right) is really neccessary for some tracks or maybe other cornering-techniques are better? (because I am not an FZX or FZGX player )
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #38 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 08:33am » |
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actually, it can't be accidentally done since your racer would need to be heavy, have an A-grip and be set to max-acceleration (which in truth is rarely done I believe)
but the thing is, it's there... ok, let me post my stuff from IGN, best post of mine ever:
"But when it comes down to it, this bug is not just a bug, it is A FLAW, I really want to play GX without having to think of this imperfection
The game is suppose to BE HARD, the player should not have any access (aside from the difficulty settings) to make the game easy, nay, simple to a point where a 5 year old could probably beat a staff ghost If taught how to do this"
See, there's no denying that
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #39 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 09:57am » |
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It sounds to me like this technique is a definite bug/glitch in the game, especially if people are already beating the staff ghosts by over 20 seconds or so.
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Will Haven
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #40 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 11:58am » |
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Well Peer from IGN is saying that he agrees and is going to see if he can sort it out with some chats to Ninty/Sega. I personally see it as a gameplay bug. Like someone said, DTD, railboostsliding and all the other highly advanced FZero X techniques were useful individually in special instances.....all coming together to form a perfect lap and great satisfaction. It was all a delicate balance, great skill and context specific....this snake method is the total opposite.
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #41 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 12:19pm » |
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In F Zero X, even if you know the most powerfull techniques and perform it well, that doesn t mean you can easily beat a record. You have to work hard then.
With dakou, what will time attack become? As soon as you know the trick, you just have to sneak as much as possible! What becomes the race strategy?
Let's everybody snake! And you ll have hundred of players with the same times...
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Mach1 軋 va, Mach3 bonjour les d馮穰s!
F zero x rank EXPERT B 1st French 12th PAL 19th overall
I just went 1594 kmh PAl on silence!!! I can t beat MC ghost! Why? What 's wrong in my race strategy?
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Will Haven
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #42 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 1:01pm » |
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I'm very happy that FZero GX DOESN'T employ the same techniques as FZero X, it is far more entertaining discovering new techniques and having to play differently for the new titles (like from the SNES to N64). It would be dull to simply play FZero GX like FZero X. However, this snake technique is clearly a major problem that destroys a lot of the fun and subtlety...not to mention difficultly. So I really hope they sort this out for the PAL version
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #43 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 2:13pm » |
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Just a thought, but if the technique is corrected in the Pal version. Wont NTSC players have an Big advantage over the Pal players?
This may cause the GX competition to only have the Seperate Pal and NTSC sections and not overall.
I'm sure alot of people (Like myself) would like to be able to compare times with both Pal and NTSC players like in F-Zero X and SNES.
So if you ask me, I'll be happy if both games are identecal. Meaning both would other Have the Flaw or not have the flaw.
If the games leaves the technique in there I'll play with it first then without until I've beaten all staff ghosts both ways. ^^
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #44 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 4:00pm » |
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I really hope we US/CAN and PAL users wont have to play with this shit. The japanese are already cursed though
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #45 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 4:01pm » |
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i dont care, I'd rather the PAL version was corrected. The NTSC and PAL Fzero X comparisons werent perfect anyway I believe. European gamers always get the faster records anyway so I'm happy to only race against PAL gamers. Anyway, hopefully the US version will be fixed. Some IGN members rang Nintendo and gave detailed descriptions, video links, IGN forum links etc to the technique and the annoyance it has caused. They have apparently sent a high priority memo to the higher ranks of Nintendo and the IGN editors said they would also contact them. So hopefully they might be able to fix something if they actually care!
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #46 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 8:05pm » |
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PAL/european players are not the best. think before you write sthg please.
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #47 on: Aug 3rd, 2003, 03:04am » |
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He maybe meant that they seem to have an advantage, not that they're neccesarily the BEST. Anyway to me, the conversion seems to be spot-on.
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