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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #15 on: Jul 31st, 2003, 07:31am » |
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just checked the jap board and yes the (first?) high-speed technique for GX is "dakou", wich is meandering in english (according to my dictionnary) and "serpenter" in French. they're not very pleased with this since this is kind of ridiculous and it's not really fun to play time attack like this. faust (fzmv world champ.) has lost some motivation for TA for example.
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #16 on: Jul 31st, 2003, 07:41am » |
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man, I wonder how they came across this? Hopefully there's a better technique... so what courses does it work on? Hopefully, not all
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #17 on: Jul 31st, 2003, 08:24am » |
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I actually attempted the technique myself just a moment ago, and I realised that it's very difficult to execute. My thumb keeps sliding off the control stick. ARGH!
This technique is actually a modification of the AX drift technique. Like Tonio has mentioned, in AX, you have to turn the wheel to the left, brake, then imediately pull the left paddle and steer the wheel straight, allowing the machine to drift before shifting into airbrake mode again.
In GX, what I did was to constantly tilt the control stick left and right, all the while pressing the L and R triggers alternatively. The triggers have to respond to the control stick - when you push leftwards, hold L. I was able to obtain a max speed of a little more than 2000km/h, with max acceleration setting.
However, when I changed the controls such that both the airbrakes and the manuevring of the machine is marked onto the control stick. so it's as if the R trigger is pushed when I turned right, I couldn't get the technique to work very well. Hence I conclude that somehow you have to buffer a slide (L+R) occasionally. For myself, the slides happened due to human error.
I can't really explain what I've noticed very well, so please, pardon my inarticulation.
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #18 on: Jul 31st, 2003, 08:30am » |
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if you guys had a choice, would you like this technique to remain in the final version?
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #19 on: Jul 31st, 2003, 08:45am » |
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on Jul 31st, 2003, 08:30am, Dominic wrote:if you guys had a choice, would you like this technique to remain in the final version? |
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Personally, I despise it. It really spoils the fun of the game just so you can have the best speed.
It seems like this technique will work with any racer, but somehow it works with Black Bull the best. I've got up to 1700km/h with White Cat.
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #20 on: Jul 31st, 2003, 09:04am » |
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good, becuase I just e-mailed them and asked them to try and remove it, or tell me if there are other techniques
alright, I know you're all like BS! BS! It's stinking up the forums! You'll get a generic reply!!!
But mind you, I was responsible for F-Zero being advertised on MTV, Comedy central and stuff... fine, then don't believe me
I'll post the reply I get from them later on...
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #21 on: Jul 31st, 2003, 4:36pm » |
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Well even if they would think its better without, the final version is already out, they dont want it to be different in different regions.
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #22 on: Jul 31st, 2003, 5:02pm » |
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This officially sucks !!
I'be just tried it again and got it to work somehow with the Iron Tiger .. seems like it only works with heavy cars with A grip set at max accel..
As Kirby Sim says: all you have to is do very quick right + R , left + L -snake like drifts and you pick up tremendous speed for no apparent reason at all .. you don't even have to boost.
Just beaten the MC1 staff ghost with by setting a 58 second time but I wasn't proud of it one bit .. just didn't take ANY skill whatsoever..
What the hell were they thinking 
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #23 on: Jul 31st, 2003, 6:07pm » |
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Unlocked the Black Bull and now it's not even funny anymore..
Staff Ghosts falling left and right by 10 seconds on my first try .. easy 52 secs on Mute City..
Wonder if this was intended or an unfixed bug ?
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #24 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 12:56am » |
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Does anyone have a mirror of this video? Or another movie using this "dakou" strat?
And from the sounds of it, I doubt it was intentional (I haven't seen it though, so I can't really give a proper judgment).
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #25 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 01:54am » |
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I hope that is removed in the PAL version
with this technique the game is not interesting
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #26 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 03:54am » |
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I won t use this technique in solo, that's for sure. And if it get fixed in further versions dakou should be forbidden, maybe? I hope more powerfull techniques will be found in the future.
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #27 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 07:04am » |
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I really hope its a bug they'll get rid of
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #28 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 07:38am » |
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I'm really worried about this the more I think of it...
All of us should E-mail NOA about this, I already did, sent 3 in fact, we can't just let this thing go on through all the versions of the game
I'll never forgive Nintendo if this goes on
E-MAIL NOW!!!!
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nintendo@noa.nintendo.com
David (and everyone else that has the Japanese version) are there any other issues that have occured that may seem to make the game cheap? I can't imagine anything as bad as this, but please state them immediately, but I have a feeling that this is the only thing that is hindering F-Zero GX from being a great game so far
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Re: Vid of MC1 in 46 seconds ?
« Reply #29 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 09:52am » |
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I'm quite confused by all I hear here and there. (right now from sugi: "wall-drift" (I guess it's what people call boost sliding here though it's not a slide turn but a drift turn ) still exist in X)
I don't really have time to play anymore (friends have come to visit Kyoto)... and not really motivated for it.
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