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Track Lengths?
« Thread started on: Mar 9th, 2003, 1:55pm »

Anyone ever figured out the track lengths for MV?

It would be interesting to see avg. speed/lap stats.
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Re: Track Lengths?
« Reply #1 on: Mar 9th, 2003, 2:03pm »

never thought of that so never really looked
good Idea
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Re: Track Lengths?
« Reply #2 on: Mar 28th, 2003, 11:34pm »

If anyone has some ideas on how to measure the lengths of the tracks that would be good. That way we could figure out the minimum time possible for each track with each car!

If someone has any ideas on how to precisely measure distance on the MV tracks, it would be easy to time a car driving across a stretch at a constant speed. From there it would be simple to figure out length, blah blah blah.

Maybe fzero gc will have an odometer!
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Re: Track Lengths?
« Reply #3 on: Mar 29th, 2003, 2:07pm »

I tried to measure the track length of Knight 1 with Falcon Mk-II, The Stingray, and Fighting Comet, quite a long time ago. The result for my racing line was ~3.7 km, give or take 50 m.
I didn't however see the point further investigating the subject then, so I left it at this.

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Re: Track Lengths?
« Reply #4 on: Mar 30th, 2003, 3:53pm »

Thanks for the help, but 3.7km seems awfully short, JV could do a lap on that course in about 3 seconds!
I did a quick measurement, in the poor quality only a caveman could reproduce, of Queen1 and got an estimate of 20.34km for the absolute inside of the track.
At 455km/h the infamous JV could make a 5lap time of about 1'20" plus change. That is about 5 seconds faster than the top time so I could be wrong.

Really, if any of you braniacs out there want to show off, help me out with this.
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Re: Track Lengths?
« Reply #5 on: Mar 30th, 2003, 4:36pm »

heres what i just did for K1

i ran 4 consecutive laps at top speed with the JV ( without straffing ) just taping the acelarator on turns and also staying in the middle of the track on straightways and cutting corners.. ii got the following times. 26.25, 26.23, 26.23, 26.26..came out with an average of 26.24 seconds per lap @ 453km/h average speed..maybe 452km/h considering taping on the turns.
ok, so then JV traveling at 453km/h.. i 1 minute could travel 7750meters ( 7.750km for americans ).. and it could travel 125.83333.. meters per second! therefore 125.83333..X 26.24 = 3301meters aproximate.. round 3.3km.. thats the lengh of K1 3.3km.. remember i did not run it inside the track.. i ran it in the middle..cutting corners using tangency sorry nick, but kircher was way closer than you on that

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« Reply #6 on: Mar 30th, 2003, 9:07pm »

Actually, I tried Knight One, and we have three values.
A= Track length (one we are trying to find out)
B= Top speed (Normal, Fighting Comet, 410 kmh ESTIMATED)
C= Time it takes to do one full lap flawlessly.

410 + or - the square root of 410 to the second power, minus 4 times 410 times track length times estimated lap time 31"00 all divided by 2 times Track length.
Complicated? Lets start with the square root.
Square root of 410=20.24845 (only used 5 decimal places)
410x410= 168,100
168,100x.31 = 52111
+ 52111/2 = 26055.5
- 26055.5/-2 = -13027.75
+13027.75 move decimal 3 places to the left
13.02775/4 =3.2569375 KM

Complicated? Probably. Needed a calculator for this one
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Re: Track Lengths?
« Reply #7 on: Mar 30th, 2003, 9:13pm »

So, in respect to the 3/4 Quadratic Formula, it just proves that Leandro and Michael are correct.
Quadratic Formula:
B plus or minus the square root of the quantity
square it, then subtract four times A times C, all divided by 2 times A.

The 3/4 deviation clause:
+ is the quanity after solving, divide by two.
- is the quanity after solving, divide by negitive two.
Turn positive if negitive, move decimal 3 spots left.
Divide ALL by four.
Answer is in KM.

Don't ask me to do this for every track. Just trying to clear up matters.
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Re: Track Lengths?
« Reply #8 on: Mar 30th, 2003, 11:14pm »

Thanks, Brainiacs!!!!
You rule at mathematics!
By the way, Leandro, what is 'straffing'? How do you do it?
will it help my already awesome times?

And thank you, Kort, for your help. I was WAY off on my calculations. You are one smart cookie!
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Re: Track Lengths?
« Reply #9 on: Mar 31st, 2003, 12:09pm »

straffing when used in a straightway for example, you hold down the L and at the same time correct it by using the directional button so u will actually still be going on a straight line, but on a croocked way.. u will actually be going faster than if u were to just have the car to in a straight line.. by looking at your times i cant really tell if u use straffing or not.. but using the JV and not knowing how to straffe is a waste of time.. straffing is allso used in the beggining of a sliding turn, i'm sure that on the tips and strategies this is all explained better

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Re: Track Lengths?
« Reply #10 on: Mar 31st, 2003, 2:52pm »

Kort, please give me a clue how you derived the formula you used above.

I tried K1 with FC again today, reaching ~29" per lap unboosted. So ...

(412 km/h) * (1 h / 3600 s) * (29 s/lap) = 3.32 km/lap

[Note how the units cancel nicely, if the whole thing is written as fraction]

... which is more or less the same figure Leandro stated. I guess the 3.7 km I gave earlier must have been for another track I measured.

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Re: Track Lengths?
« Reply #11 on: Mar 31st, 2003, 6:03pm »

I used FC, K1, No boost, closest racing line.
I used the Quadratic Formula, but I deviated a bit, as I explained.
Don't want to do it again, because it is a pain in the butt.
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« Reply #12 on: Mar 31st, 2003, 6:06pm »

Nick! Did you know what you are doing?
You are finally abiding by the rules of the board!
Hallejuah! Never thought it would happen! You have done a commendable job.
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P.S. Thanks for thanking me for that. Took me a while to figure out.
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Re: Track Lengths?
« Reply #13 on: Apr 24th, 2003, 7:16pm »

If anyone is able to figure out how wide the track is I can give and estimate on the size of a car (at least width)
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« Reply #14 on: May 12th, 2003, 1:57pm »

Most cars have roughly the same width as one "circle" of the rails. I then counted these circles along the pit stretch of Q1, and measured the time HV needed do complete the distance at full normal speed.
I'll spare you the details of the calculation, here the result: the circles are approx. 5 meters in diameter.
The grid that is projected under the cars in the car selection screen for Grand Prix mode has squares 1m x 1m wide. The cockpit sizes are also consistent. They even got this right.

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