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Master Class=Impossible
« Thread started on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:09am »

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There are entirley way too many factors that are in this game in order to be able to beat it on master class.
1) CPU Vehicle Speed
2) Wasted Boosts
3) Pedestrians


CPU Vehicle Speed
When Master class becomes unlocked The CPU vehicles are so fast that you cannot pass them without a boost and even when you do pass them they just get right back in front of you again. Another good example is the stingray. Thje stingray vehicle has a boost time that goes almost 600 MPH and lasts for 12 seconds. Now how the hell is it possible for a vehicle such as Hot Violet to be able to even catch up to it....So one would figure that if the CPU is using Wind Walker to beat you using the stingray, then you use the wind walker right. So you pick wind walker and then the CPU beats you using the Stingray. So because of this, no matter what vehicle you are using you can never stay ahead of the CPU in order to win.

Wasted Boosts
Boosts in master class are 100% completely useless. 99.9% of the time (No matter where you boost from on the track) You can never get into the top 3. Even that.1% of the time you do manage to get into the top 3 you never stay there. 75% of the time wind up even further behind then when you started. So as you can see there really is no point to a boost if you use it to get ahead and then either can't get there or stay there). A boost is somthing to get you ahead, Not get further behind then what you started at.

3) Pedestrians
The final factor is the pedestrians. There should be absoultley 0 (Zero) pedestrians on any of these tracks whatsoever. Every time you come around a corner in this game on any of these tracks (After the 3rd lap) You will always somehow no matter how good or careful of a driver you are, always just happen to bang into a pedestrian sending you flying backward while the CPU 98% of the time miss them and fly by you thus making you lose the race or the place you were in I mean come on are there pedestrians on the Indianapolis 500 or any other racetrack in the world while the race is going on?

I can tell you because of these 3 factors posted above, that this game cannot be completed on master class. No matter what anyone says No one is going to tell me otherwise. One last thing:
At first I thought it was me, So I loaned this game to 12 of my friends. It turned out that all 12 of my friends said the same thing I did they were having the same exact problems I was. So here we have 13 people having the same EXACT thing happen so this isn't a coincidence.
They gave it back to me and said it's impossible to finish this game in it's entirty. So in the end I know it's not me.

If anyone wants to respond to this feel free. However keep in mind that this isn't a topic asking for help or opinions it was just something I posted that's all
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Re: Master Class=Impossible
« Reply #1 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:21am »

I can tell you that it is entirely possible to beat the Master Series, I have and a lot of other people on this site will have done as well.

Have you tried getting in front of the check arrow to stop the CPU overtaking you? You could also try saving your boosts up for the last couple of laps then boost the entire last 2 laps. The most important thing about the Master Series is that you have to know the tracks inside out, you cannot afford to hit the sides of the track or the backmarkers else the difficulty of getting 3rd or higher will be greater. Keep practicing and eventually you'll do it.
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:32am »

First off I'm an excellent driver when it comes to racing (I have records in both GTA3 and GTA VC) For the car races as well as the helicopter checkpoint missions and second I'm also a veteran at games in general

Everything you are telling and suggesting me to do I've all ready tried and done well over 100 times and that's not an exaggerated number either. I've actually done it that many times with the same result every single time. So that's the reason for this post.
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Re: Master Class=Impossible
« Reply #3 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:38am »

Have you unlocked the Falkon Mk 11? What kind of times are you getting on say, the Pawn tracks?
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:50am »

Is it difficult to beat the Master difficulty? Yep.
Is it impossible? Nope. Done it twice.

Try adjusting your strategies around for each course and see how that works. (About all I can suggest for the time being.)

*Edit: Had the first post as a quote, but made message too long.*
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:52am »

There are shortcuts on quite a few of the tracks, check these message boards for them.
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:55am »

MK FALCON II that vehicle is horrible. I beat that thing in a race using Wind Walker and Short cuts useless on this mode too they are just like the Boosts the CPU is way too fast and catches up to you way too quick
I have every the following things unlocked
Queen series
All Classes at all difficulties and all beat except for any Master Class Which can't be finished because of the reasons I posted Earlier
I have Sly Joker, Sting Ray, MK Falcon II
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 10:58am »

I can assure you that the shortcuts are VERY useful to help you stay in front of the CPU.

I suggest you check out of strats pages for tips on the tracks. If you can improve your track strategies and get faster times, you will easily beat the Master Series.
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 11:05am »

If Master class couldn't be beaten then no one would have Fighting Comet. Lots of us have FC, and did so without any codes.

As a veteran gamer, I'm sure you must have encountered many message board topics across the internet where a player of a game says that something is impossible when you know for a fact that it CAN be done. In each case it is just a matter of that person not yet understanding exactly what is needed to perform that task.

Now you're on the other side of that conversation, that's all.

As the webmaster of F-Zero Central, I have nothing to gain by attempting to deceive you. Talk with us some more, keep an open mind, and once you beat Master you'll enjoy the game more and appreciate FZC for what it is ... one of the most friendly and helpful gaming sites anywhere.

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« Reply #9 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 11:35am »

The short cuts are helpful to keep you in front of the CPU Whatever!! You obviuosly didn't read the section in my post about how the Cpu will always catch up to and pass you no matter what if you did read it you blatently ignored it.
For everyone's info, there will not be any strategy that anyone will be able to tell me that I haven't all ready tried or used I'll give you a little run down to start
i have had this game for a little over 7 months.
I have had at least 6 moths of practice with this game,
I have read over 70 different FAQ'S, Tried over 100 different strategies, I even have the the very first Nintendo Advance with this game in it,. and that's just to start.

The fact of the matter is that the problems are listed and real.
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Re: Master Class=Impossible
« Reply #10 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 12:00pm »

If you dropped that arrogant attitude and read some of the strats written on this site maybe, but just maybe, you would succed in beating the game in Master difficulty.
I only have Queen in Master to beat and I find the first three tracks more or less easy to finish in the top 3, and I'm not even a good FZMV player.
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 12:07pm »

Hey I got all four in Master level by Falcon MkII....boy I hadnt play racing in master for months....I did improve FC in time attack in months later...i shoud go racing in FC sooner...
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Re: Master Class=Impossible
« Reply #12 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 12:25pm »

I'm gonna hafta make this guy some videos of me beating Master with Falcon just to prove the point.
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Re: Master Class=Impossible
« Reply #13 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 12:31pm »

on Jul 23rd, 2003, 12:25pm, Webmaster wrote:
I'm gonna hafta make this guy some videos of me beating Master with Falcon just to prove the point.


Yup, that seems like the only way at the moment.

Why don't you make it Hot Violet?
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« Reply #14 on: Jul 23rd, 2003, 12:37pm »

Someone posted: If you dropped that arrogant attitude and read some of the strats written on this site maybe, but just maybe, you would succed in beating the game in Master difficulty.
I only have Queen in Master to beat and I find the first three tracks more or less easy to finish in the top 3, and I'm not even a good FZMV player.
As I said before there isn't a strtegy around that anyone will beable to tell me or any that I haven't all ready tried

You can't weigh the facts with just talk! Enough talk!! Talk is getting everyone here no where nstead of people just saying they beat this class Prove it I'll end this right now: I want someone (Anyone) to prove me wrong infact I dare someone too.
I'll make a pledge right now and say I'm willing to be proved wrong. I want to see a video of every single master class race being won. When someone does this then and opny then not only will I say sorry but I'll start believing people that are just talking.
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