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Dash Technique
Post by ED-209 Automated Police Unit on Feb 24th, 2003, 10:33am

Does 'dash technique' work when you rotate your vehicle sideways and hit a skid plate, or do you have to bounce off a wall for some reason, first?

what about knight final when you run straight into a skid plate facing sideways?

what if you jump in the air and rotate and then land on a skid plate as in, uh, one of the queen tracks? Maybe it's Championship....

Is it true if you beat the game on Master without crashing and with silver thunder driving backwards you get a nude Britney Spears level?
Re: Dash Technique
Post by Webmaster on Feb 24th, 2003, 10:37am

Any sort of angle when using a dash plate helps your speed. The more severe the angle, the bigger benefit you get.

Technically, when someone refers to the Dash Technigue, they mean when you bounce off a wall to get fully sideways for the plate. It is an extremely advanced technique which has only been successfully performed by a few players at the King level.
Re: Dash Technique
Post by nick harsh on Feb 24th, 2003, 5:30pm

how many at the Queen level?
Re: Dash Technique
Post by Top Speed on Apr 20th, 2003, 02:14am

lol...lst post was some how funny too me...anyway...what sort of times can you get with the dash technique on the championship circuit?...its to be used only on pawn 1 and championship circuit or possible with other courses?

last thing...Dave...can you do it too?
Re: Dash Technique
Post by Webmaster on Apr 20th, 2003, 02:32am

Look at the Championship course ranking page. See the very big gap between #5 and #6? The top five used the Dash Technique, everyone else didn't. It's THAT hard to do consistently. Heck no, I can't do it. I haven't tried much, but I haven't even done it right ONCE.

As far as I know, Pawn 1 and Championship are the only courses where the Dash Technique has been used by F-Zero Central players. It's possible the Japanese have used it on others, but that's just a guess.

Dave




Re: Dash Technique
Post by Tonio on Apr 23rd, 2003, 01:51am

Bumping into the wall just allows you to take the dash plate at 90 degrees.

If you want to try
you can first simply take the dash plate by just stopping your car and go slowly onto it with a 90deg angle (I did this for P1 lap), to see what "extreme straffing" looks like. don't forget to release (I mean "not push", not sure about my English) accel button once you get on the plate so that you don't go into the wall in front of you. then accelerate once again (and boost on champ, forgot about P1) when you think it's time to go back in the right direction , before the right turn.
Then the difficult part is to hit the wall correctly in order not to miss the dash plate.
Since you stop accelerating during the move it's a very impressive sensation of silence and hyper-speed. I love it.

I used to try the JDT on other tracks, with no result. you need a long straight line in the direction of the dash plate for ex. doesn't work on KF for this reason.

there's also a big gap between n1 and n2

Antoine


Re: Dash Technique
Post by Tonio on Apr 23rd, 2003, 02:04am

and good luck!

(100th post!)
Re: Dash Technique
Post by Top Speed on Apr 23rd, 2003, 5:34pm

Thanks I appreciate the explanation...it is very clear.
Re: Dash Technique
Post by Top Speed on Apr 23rd, 2003, 6:15pm

There's one thing I forgot to ask...When do you boost in pawn 1...because in the tips and strategy page it says to boost "just before" the start line..and I don't understand why...shouldn't you boost at the dirt patches instead?

Al
Re: Dash Technique
Post by Tonio on Apr 23rd, 2003, 10:54pm

I've just visited the strat page (for the first time ) and I can't figure out why FJ is speaking about the JDT in pawn 1 course, and only at the end of the 4th lap....
I use it only for lap times (right, at the end of the 4th lap)

I think with JV you boost before the jump plate (should end just after the dirt zones)... with FC, before the first left turn... maybe... don't really remember.
Re: Dash Technique
Post by Top Speed on Apr 23rd, 2003, 11:51pm

so your P1 time of 1'53"40 is without using the JDT even once? Damn...your more legendary than I thought!
Re: Dash Technique
Post by Tonio on Apr 24th, 2003, 12:14am


hmmm, yep (no JDT). Greg too I think. I wanted to do it at the end of the last lap but good luck is too precious in GP mode not to throw it away with a missed final dash plate and just a stupid bump in the wall
Jap record is something like 1'51"xx in training
There were no trace of JDT in what I could read from their strats, or what could automatic translation could tell us.

btw, you use FC, so you can't say I'm that good!


Re: Dash Technique
Post by Top Speed on Apr 24th, 2003, 6:22pm

on Apr 24th, 2003, 12:14am, Tonio wrote:

btw, you use FC, so you can't say I'm that good!



I don't really understand what you mean by that though. Anywho...I just can't see how you can use the JV to get such a low score..my best JV time is 1'59"50 and lap 22"49. I just can't see what I can possible do to go faster...I take ever corner as shrap as possible...am I missing a shortcut somewhere?
I cut through the jump part and shortly before the dirt patch starts I press turbo which ends right before the begginning of the last curve. Then I take the 2 dash plates and start it all over again...so where's my problem?
Re: Dash Technique
Post by Tonio on Apr 24th, 2003, 8:58pm

I use GP mode for this track so it's all about getting a very good boost from other cars after the start (up to 600kph is possible), and using ""mines"" in lap 3(?),4,5. If you're lucky, the mines are ideally placed (after the start line, before the jump... )and you can set a very nice PR, if you're not...



Re: Dash Technique
Post by Top Speed on Apr 24th, 2003, 10:02pm

Ok Thanks...I think I get it now
Re: Dash Technique
Post by F-Zero Fanatic on Jul 17th, 2003, 05:11am

Blimey, I'm away for a year and so and when I get back your all talking about a new technique. I'll have to give this JDT a try one of these days.
Re: Dash Technique
Post by F-Zero Fanatic on Jul 31st, 2003, 04:48am

Ok, I've tried doing the JDT on the Championship circuit. I bump into the wall, hit the first dash plate at 90 degree but I still find my vehicle smashing into the wall (probably because there is a velocity component in that direction even though you are not pressing the accelerator). What other things am I supposed to be doing with the controls straight after I hit the wall?

Well after about 20-30 minutes of repeatidly bashing the electric barrier I decided to play the track without using the JDT and I took 0.73 seconds off my PR.
Re: Dash Technique
Post by Webmaster on Aug 1st, 2003, 02:32am

on Jul 31st, 2003, 04:48am, Ninto wrote:
Ok, I've tried doing the JDT on the Championship circuit. I bump into the wall, hit the first dash plate at 90 degree but I still find my vehicle smashing into the wall (probably because there is a velocity component in that direction even though you are not pressing the accelerator). What other things am I supposed to be doing with the controls straight after I hit the wall?

The video shows the player holding R from the first dash plate all the way until he is ready to straighten out. He also taps left on the pad a couple times, possibly by accident ... but also possibly a stabilizing maneuver.
Re: Dash Technique
Post by ED-209 Automated Police Unit on Aug 1st, 2003, 02:37am

I can't do the JDT per se, but the 1 or 2 times I have gotten it to work on the Champ track I was actually facing the opposite direction Fred Just does (I face the inside of the track he faces the outside).
But, as I said, I can't get the JDT to work consistently so you may want to disregard what I just posted.
Re: Dash Technique
Post by SimonC on Aug 3rd, 2003, 02:01am

I'll try too explain how I do it, but it's difficult because I don't think about it before I do it I just do instinctively.

Anyway. You have to take the corner before the boost plate very well so you're in complete control of the JV.

Next the hard bit. Hold R after the corner (I always hold L or R for every track) and then hold left and at the same time let go of A. If you timed it right you should of hit the wall and then the first boost plate and be at a 45 degree angle.

Now you should let go of left while still pressing R (I let go of left when I'm at that 45 degree angle I was talking about). Stay like that until you hit the second boost plate and then press left again so you're traveling at a 90 degree angle. Cross the line and correct the JV and continue your race. Easy! (Well, maybe not! )

Also, it seems mine and Tonio's strats differ. So I thought some of you would like to see my replay. I don't have the necessary equipment though.

So I have uploaded my save to a PC with a "flash advance" cable thingy and the save works with the Visual Boy Advance emulator. You can downloaded it here (it's not a rom or anything):

http://www.geocities.com/simon_cheetham/simonc-f-zero.zip

Just delete the above if you don't allow this.




Re: Dash Technique
Post by GreggRichardson on Aug 3rd, 2003, 07:13am

Damn I have long way to go...
Re: Dash Technique
Post by FredJust on Aug 3rd, 2003, 11:57am

Simon

I make a video of your's record
can I upload it on internet ?

the record on 47 pictures:
http://www.efrance.fr/fredjust/FzeroGx/Film/pages/f_simon.html

Fred
Re: Dash Technique
Post by Tonio on Aug 3rd, 2003, 7:30pm

where did you buy the cable?
you can't find it in shops right?
I don't need the flash cards...
Re: Dash Technique
Post by SimonC on Aug 4th, 2003, 01:25am

The cable I used is a Flas2Advance, I only bought it so I could play NES games, but I never do.

Anyway, I'm not sure where to buy them from, but you can buy the cable without a flash card. Check here:

http://flash2advance.com/

Yes Fred, you can make a video of it.
Re: Dash Technique
Post by FredJust on Aug 4th, 2003, 03:02am


Video record of Simon :
http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/F_zeroGBA/files/

make with Visual Boy Advance
Very good quality
~ 4 Mo
XviD codec