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« Thread started on: May 13th, 2003, 06:30am »

how do you go sub 19 on the 1st lap of bishop 3 i get about 19"20 also i boost after the 2nd set of dash plates when speed is below 600 is that right? my time is 1'33"47
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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #1 on: May 13th, 2003, 07:31am »

on May 13th, 2003, 06:30am, ElliotJones wrote:
how do you go sub 19 on the 1st lap of bishop 3 i get about 19"20 also i boost after the 2nd set of dash plates when speed is below 600 is that right? my time is 1'33"47


That's where I boost, yeah ... but I'm 1'33"90, so why should you listen to me? I can get about 19"20 on the first lap also, so I'm also curious to hear how to go sub-19.
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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #2 on: May 13th, 2003, 10:00pm »

19"12 is the best I've done so far. I've got a couple theories on this track, though. It would be interesting to check them out with Tonio or Leandro (or anyone better than us for that matter).
The main thing i've noticed about this track is the area with the moving ground that pulls you from side to side. Making the turns in there will cause your car to drive against the 'flow' of the ground, slowing you down. I haven't tried to get arround this, or even use it to speed up my time yet. I don't know if it can be done.
I've also noticed that it is possible to turn JV as it crosses 2 consecutive dash plates so that it is moving sideways. I don't know if the short time that JV goes sideways in a modified JDT helps or if it hurts because it prevents me from taking the corners tightly.
I'd like to get some input from one of our better racers.
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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #3 on: May 14th, 2003, 12:51am »

I had an other go last night is it me or am i getting worse? 1'3400 was the best I got, terrible!!!

I think my boost laps were around 18"6s If antoin is there i would like to know his splits
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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #4 on: May 14th, 2003, 05:57am »

Hey you are better than meeeeee... mine is 1'43"69 FC...
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« Reply #5 on: May 14th, 2003, 1:05pm »

as for a better strat on this course.. i dont know of any better than the one u guys use.. my best first lap is around 19"10.. maybe a bit lower.. but not under 19.. i'm pretty sure greg can do it though. my best time is only a 1'33"35.. greg and antoine can go a 1'31 i believe.. and the japanese can can an astounding 1'29!! so theres gotta be some major trick u can do in the middle part of the track

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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #6 on: May 14th, 2003, 10:07pm »

didn't use any special trick. no JDT.
the only thing I did for my last series of updates was to limit blast turn to the minimum and drifting as hard as possible.

splits? something like 18"5x then 18"2x? maybe...
I guess Greg as the same (which is no) strat as me
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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #7 on: May 15th, 2003, 12:07pm »

One other thing was on the set of dash plates before i boost (the 2nd lot) i take the right hand set of dash plates should i be taking left or right?
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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #8 on: Aug 25th, 2003, 2:49pm »

I really don't know how you guys go 1-2 seconds faster than me on this track. I'm going at top speed virtually the whole way and cutting every corner, drift turning etc.... I also take the right set of dash plates as it makes the next turn easier. What about you Antoine? Greg? Leo?

My splits are: 19"10 / 18"55 / 18"53 / 18"61 / 18"50
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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #9 on: Aug 25th, 2003, 10:52pm »

hehehe this track has some interesting 'hidden' secrets.. u will find out as you play and play so many times.. prob one of the most important parts is where those side rail things are. thats where i usually boost.. and allways cut sharp drifting and drifting a lot..like, wayyy early..try that.. my best splits are something like.. 18"69 for first lap.. around 18"3x for decent laps.. and my fastest 1 boost lap is 18"18 on my last one finishing with a long drift.. and of course my fastest lap is 17"91, using about 2 and a half boosts.. not making much use of the third..

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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #10 on: Aug 26th, 2003, 01:12am »

Is that with the Jet Vermillion? I haven't gone sub 1'40, but I will soon. I can't do the corner between all the sliding areas and last dash plates. The 180 degree one. Any advice?
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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #11 on: Aug 26th, 2003, 10:07am »

What do you mean by side rails? Do you mean the momentum plates? I boost when my speed goes below 600 km/h which is usually after the third momentum plate. I'm still not getting anywhere with this track. I am drifting early everywhere and cutting all the corners.
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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #12 on: Aug 29th, 2003, 3:01pm »

Hi Ninto! Maybe this will help?
I think that on the momentum plates section you can cut a few 10th's off by turning a lot earlier than you normaly would. The plates on the first corner (left turn) will keep you from smashing into the wall so you can aim yourself at the corner and you'll still miss it. Then you can turn hard to the right immediately afterward and the momentum plate for the right corner will pull you towards the corner but you should still miss it. The track kind of moves you while you turn. I've gotten my 1st lap down to 18"70's but I can't get the rest to consistently be 18"30's.

Oh yeah, I am of the belief that boosting BEFORE the third plate is best because it gets you across the plates faster, cutting down on the wasted side-to-side motion. (any direction other than forward is bad!)
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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #13 on: Aug 29th, 2003, 3:34pm »

So you boost before ALL of the momentum plates?
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Re: bishop 3
« Reply #14 on: Aug 29th, 2003, 5:22pm »

i boost on or right after the 2nd plate, then turn left hard, missing the first corner then right hard, just missing the 2nd corner.
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