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JV vs. FC
Post by Fox128 on May 17th, 2003, 7:16pm

I don't know if there was already a topic like that...

Yesterday I unlocked the Jet Vermilion (by getting all 36 Trophies). And now I want to get some good records, so I found this site and I saw, that almost all records are made with JV...

Now, my problem is, that I'm much better with FC than with JV. Does anyone have or had this problem too?

I don't really understand why the JV is better, well his maximum speed is better, but on the other hand the FC's boost is better than JV's I think...

So, what is the way to master JV?

with FC I got sub-2:00 after a few tries in Pawn 1, but not with JV >_<
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Webmaster on May 18th, 2003, 01:45am

With JV you can drift turn for extremely long distances, allowing you to cut corners that FC can't make. Also, JV makes great use of the tracks with mines by getting speed boosts from them. FC takes more damage from the mines, and is harder to control when bouncing off of them.

Look at these Championship videos and you'll see how JV races times that FC can't touch:

http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/F_zeroGBA/files/

Keep in mind that there are exceptions. As you mentioned, on Pawn 1 FC will work better for you until you have maxed out its ability in Training mode. Only then should you give JV a try on that course, and only in GP mode, where you can boost from the floating "ball mines." Most players use FC for Queen 1 and Queen 2, and many use it for Bishop 4.

Dave
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Webmaster on May 18th, 2003, 01:47am

Forgot one thing ... join us by sending in your times!!!
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Fox128 on May 18th, 2003, 10:10am

ok, but first I will improve some scores ^^

so JV is only good in GP mode?

oh, one question: Do I have to join with my full name, or can I write "David R."?
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Barry on May 18th, 2003, 10:13am

on May 18th, 2003, 10:10am, Fox128 wrote:
oh, one question: Do I have to join with my full name, or can I write "David R."?


Your full First and Last name would be preferred for the times page.
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Webmaster on May 18th, 2003, 12:48pm

on May 18th, 2003, 10:10am, Fox128 wrote:
so JV is only good in GP mode?


No. You can achieve the very best times with JV in GP mode, but JV is still the best choice for most tracks in Training mode too. Study the track rankings for a little while and you'll see that JV dominates the top of the charts (again, on MOST tracks) with both GP and Training attempts.

on May 18th, 2003, 10:10am, Fox128 wrote:
oh, one question: Do I have to join with my full name, or can I write "David R."?


With nearly 300 players on the site (and growing fast), initials will only cause confusion. Full name is required. Occasionally someone will bring up the issue of security ... although I'm still not sure what I could do to people just by having their name. No one ever considers your local telephone book as a security threat, and that lists your home address and phone number as well! heh

Feel free to use whatever "handle" you wish here on the message board, but for the competition listings themselves, let's keep it real ... it's worked perfectly for us for two years so far! Thanks.
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Fox128 on May 18th, 2003, 2:04pm

...
I don't want to publish my full last name... sorry... not now.
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Webmaster on May 18th, 2003, 2:27pm

on May 18th, 2003, 2:04pm, Fox128 wrote:
...
I don't want to publish my full last name... sorry... not now.


OK fair enough, that's your decision to make. But could you please at least tell me why, just so I understand why there is occasionally someone who is apprehensive about it? I don't get it at all.
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by ED-209 Automated Police Unit on May 18th, 2003, 2:37pm

I bet he's famous, like Keanu Reeves or Ricardo Montalbon!
Can I have your autograph, Fox? Better yet, can I have your autographed GBA?
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Webmaster on May 18th, 2003, 2:38pm

on May 18th, 2003, 2:37pm, nickharsh wrote:
I bet he's famous, like Keanu Reeves or Ricardo Montalbon!
Can I have your autograph, Fox? Better yet, can I have your autographed GBA?


You're the LAST one who should be commenting on this, Mr. Macgillicutty. LMAO!!
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by ED-209 Automated Police Unit on May 18th, 2003, 2:42pm


ouch, Dave.
Ouch.
Isn't that McGillicutty?
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Fox128 on May 18th, 2003, 2:44pm

I can't tell you why...
@nickharsh: lol...
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Webmaster on May 18th, 2003, 2:47pm

on May 18th, 2003, 2:42pm, nickharsh wrote:

ouch, Dave.
Ouch.
Isn't that McGillicutty?


Dude, you may not have noticed, but you spelled it BOTH ways at different times. That's the funniest part!
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Webmaster on May 18th, 2003, 3:16pm

on May 18th, 2003, 2:44pm, Fox128 wrote:
I can't tell you why...
@nickharsh: lol...


In an attempt to help you maintain your privacy better, sir ... if you want to protect your full name, you really shouldn't give your first name and last initial in a message board post, and your first initial and last name in your e-mail address in your profile on that same board. People can do the "math."

This isn't meant to be negative toward you, David. If you truly have a need to protect your name, this information will help you do a better job of it. I wish you luck, and if you ever change your mind and want to join our community here, we'll welcome you with the proverbial "open arms."
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Fox128 on May 18th, 2003, 5:52pm

on May 18th, 2003, 3:16pm, Webmaster wrote:
In an attempt to help you maintain your privacy better, sir ... if you want to protect your full name, you really shouldn't give your first name and last initial in a message board post, and your first initial and last name in your e-mail address in your profile on that same board. People can do the "math."

This isn't meant to be negative toward you, David. If you truly have a need to protect your name, this information will help you do a better job of it. I wish you luck, and if you ever change your mind and want to join our community here, we'll welcome you with the proverbial "open arms."

Well, I know that you can see my last name in my e-mail adress obviosly. It don't cares, if the people of this board know my real name (David Riediger) -.-
But I don't want it in the rankings on your page, that's the problem ^^

ok the reason is, I know some people which shouldn't see my "bad" scores on a rankings page >_>
And well... I don't really like my real name, everyone in the internet (about 200 people) know me as Fox128 *lol*

But if I got better, I'll join you! Sure! ^^
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Barry on May 18th, 2003, 6:06pm

on May 18th, 2003, 5:52pm, Fox128 wrote:
Well, I know that you can see my last name in my e-mail adress obviosly. It don't cares, if the people of this board know my real name (David Riediger) -.-
But I don't want it in the rankings on your page, that's the problem ^^

ok the reason is, I know some people which shouldn't see my "bad" scores on a rankings page >_>
And well... I don't really like my real name, everyone in the internet (about 200 people) know me as Fox128 *lol*

But if I got better, I'll join you! Sure! ^^


Don't let some of the better times intimidate you from joining the competition(if that is the case). With time and practice, we all improve.

But, If you wish to hold off for a while, that's cool too. Feel free to take a seat, grab your favorite beverage, kick back and relax and enjoy yourself.
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Fox128 on May 18th, 2003, 6:25pm

on May 18th, 2003, 6:06pm, Barry J. Herbert II wrote:
Don't let some of the better times intimidate you from joining the competition(if that is the case). With time and practice, we all improve.

But, If you wish to hold off for a while, that's cool too. Feel free to take a seat, grab your favorite beverage, kick back and relax and enjoy yourself.

another thing is, that I don't know if I'm going to spend so much time with FZMV, cause I'm an SSBM player and I must get better there too
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by ED-209 Automated Police Unit on May 18th, 2003, 7:57pm

on May 18th, 2003, 2:47pm, Webmaster wrote:
Dude, you may not have noticed, but you spelled it BOTH ways at different times. That's the funniest part!

I got married, Dave. Sometimes people change their names when they get married.
Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Webmaster on May 18th, 2003, 9:26pm

on May 18th, 2003, 7:57pm, nickharsh wrote:
I got married, Dave. Sometimes people change their names when they get married.


LOL! I dig your sense of humor, Nick. I'm so glad you reined it in just enough to stop getting flamed here.
Can't get this damn JV to work....
Post by Damian666 on Jun 8th, 2003, 09:03am

Hi,

I too struggle with this JV - how the hell do you get a proper turbo start which doesn't "overturbo" and slow you right down after a couple of seconds?

and how do you get this bump - if i manage to get in front of another ship it often just steers around me and achieves nothing. Someone help - i'm a Top 150 player determined to get in the Top 100, but i feel i need to master the JV as nothing has worked for me with that ship so far.

And Fox - don't take things so seriously! So what if some of your times suck? Its just a game.

Damian

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"Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them" -- Joseph Heller


Re: JV vs. FC
Post by Mike on Jun 8th, 2003, 10:14am

JV gets a proper turbo start, when you press accelerator on the first "READY." However, JV has the highest deceleration rate of all machines after a turbo start, and so needs a bump to get it running.

Solution 1: Stay in the middle of the road, and hold one of the shoulder buttons. Somehow the opponents don't take your drift into consideration when steering around you, and you *usually* get a bump from either HV, JB or FB. Simon Cheetham told me about this in a chat.

Solution 2: On tracks with a straight finish-line, don't use the turbo start at all, but wait for JB to pass you. Then drift left to the front of FB, and drive straight. The bump accelerates JV to ~410 km/h. Two seconds later JV runs at full normal speed.

These two solutions apply to Master GP. In training mode, you might either choose WW as opponent (-> Solution 1) or FB (-> Solution 2).

And - to use JV efficiently you need to know the tracks by heart, as you're turning into the corners much earlier than with the other machines (especially opposed to the Kart-like behaviour of FC). K4 and B2 are probably the best tracks to get used to JV's steering.

Greetings,

Michael