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Poll Question: Should the dakou/snake technique be allowed or not? |
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normal AND dakou rankings (maybe?) |
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dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Thread started on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 10:29am » |
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Please think about it before voting !
Maybe there are more very good techniques we haven't found yet, so let this vote stay awhile!
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #1 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 10:42am » |
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OF COURSE NO!
I do my best  I don't need datou technique... 
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #2 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 11:55am » |
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nah, dont like it. to fast, cant enjoy the scenery
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #3 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 3:37pm » |
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I think everything must be accepted (but no gameshark, etc..), if there's no cheats. A god time is a good time, and even if the dakou technique sux, F-Zero GX will stay for ever F-Zero GX, and forbid it won't be necessarily a good thing. But I may be wrong. A good question is how to make the difference between two or three slides and the dakou technique ? How can you make a judgement that can change the times from at least 4 seconds ? It's not obvius to make a choice if you want to you or not this technique. If this website doesn't allow "dakou times", it probably will make real problems to say : "I am the best" "No, it's me" "You used the dakou technique" "No, I didn't, I just slided" Do you see what I mean ? Perhaps I'll change my mind once I'll get this game, but you really have to think about it ! The debate is not over, that's for sure ! See you later guys !
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #4 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 4:03pm » |
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I hope it's fixed or someone soon discovers even better techniques that are more skillful, faster and more varied. Thing is I doubt it since the snake already beats staff ghosts by 10 seconds
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #5 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 6:04pm » |
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Unfortunately, I cannot say yes or no. Here is why.
If I was to say yes, I would literally let very fast times go into the system, and make things very unfair and it would piss me off. If I was to say no, this would delay the launch, and piss me off further.
So, I would have to say seperate the ranking, and live with it. KEJ
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #6 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 6:08pm » |
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TO Will:
Oh, I understand that Dakou takes 10 seconds off. Thing is, Our very own FZX World Champion, Jimmy Thai, can destroy Staff ghosts by MORE than that amount. Dakou could be the easier version of the slide, therefore also evening the balance. What it would do, if everyone did this techinque, is that JKT could take 10 seconds of his times, but the other edge of the double edged sword is that the others can ALSO take those ten seconds off, which means minus ten seconds, everyone is at the same lead/deficit again. I hope you understand. Not to be mad, but this idea just ran through my mind. KEJ
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #7 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 7:12pm » |
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just to say that sugi does not allow it on his site.
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #8 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 8:28pm » |
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Well then I don't think we should either. And since the record screen displays the car you used + the setting you can easily check if someone used snaking or not by asking a picture.
There's plenty of other stuff to discover to keep competiton interesting
( like today I was playing a lot on the Diamond 3 Sand Ocean track and discovered you could get nice speed boosts from clipping off the edges at each 'shift' ... veeeery risky but cool .. )
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #9 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 11:27pm » |
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I have tride this both in F-Zero X and in my mind, I can't begin to imagine how a drift type move like this could work, especially on Black Bull, does anyone else have an explanation to why?
Oh yes and I vote no, but that's just me
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #10 on: Aug 3rd, 2003, 02:23am » |
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I agree with Oliver's points. From my position, trying to monitor who's snaking and who's not would be a nightmare.
My hope is that it is not included in the US and PAL releases. I expect that the trick WILL be in them, but I HOPE it won't.
In my opinion the fastest way to the finish line (without cheat codes) should be accepted, even if you don't happen to like how it's performed or how it looks. I respectfully disagree with Sugi's decision not to accept snaking times. But Sugi's site is not FZC. They separate grip and drift for FZX and we don't. They rank based solely on course times and we don't. Both sites exist with different rules now, so another rule difference would not destroy either site's GX competition.
{sighs} Maybe they'll remove the trick from all upcoming releases and we won't have to worry about this. (Not holding my breath for that to happen.)
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #11 on: Aug 3rd, 2003, 03:26am » |
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Ok, then I sincerely hope it won't be in the later versions.
If it does it will mean the end of serious racing on quite a bit of tracks when it will be reduced to an hyperkinetic wiggle-fest.
Also don't expect any F-Zero X - like committment to TT then.. this stuff gets boring rather quickly.
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #12 on: Aug 3rd, 2003, 06:43am » |
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I will have nothing against snake, if morepowerfull and interesting tricks are discovered. But by now, there's nothing else... So I vote for a dakou and normal ranking.... For me there s no fun to beat a staff ghost this way. I want hard challenge, being proud of my skills, not doing this strange dance all the time like hundred of players... F zero has always been a difficult game, that's what make it so interesting. That's my opinion
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #13 on: Aug 3rd, 2003, 08:45am » |
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we can forbided machine which can do dako technique
if only A grip can do that ...
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Re: dakou technique @fzerocentral: yes or no?
« Reply #14 on: Aug 3rd, 2003, 2:56pm » |
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Forbid Machines? Please tell me thats not what you said.
Doing that is reducing quality of the game by reducing the number of available vehicles. Please, don't do this. Dakou is a techinque that can be negotiated. In other words, if everyone did this techinque, the field would be the same minus ten seconds. All it would do is lower times by 10 seconds, and no major ranking upset could occur. KEJ
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