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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #11 on: Apr 24th, 2003, 12:14am »


hmmm, yep (no JDT). Greg too I think. I wanted to do it at the end of the last lap but good luck is too precious in GP mode not to throw it away with a missed final dash plate and just a stupid bump in the wall
Jap record is something like 1'51"xx in training
There were no trace of JDT in what I could read from their strats, or what could automatic translation could tell us.

btw, you use FC, so you can't say I'm that good!

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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #12 on: Apr 24th, 2003, 6:22pm »

on Apr 24th, 2003, 12:14am, Tonio wrote:

btw, you use FC, so you can't say I'm that good!



I don't really understand what you mean by that though. Anywho...I just can't see how you can use the JV to get such a low score..my best JV time is 1'59"50 and lap 22"49. I just can't see what I can possible do to go faster...I take ever corner as shrap as possible...am I missing a shortcut somewhere?
I cut through the jump part and shortly before the dirt patch starts I press turbo which ends right before the begginning of the last curve. Then I take the 2 dash plates and start it all over again...so where's my problem?
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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #13 on: Apr 24th, 2003, 8:58pm »

I use GP mode for this track so it's all about getting a very good boost from other cars after the start (up to 600kph is possible), and using ""mines"" in lap 3(?),4,5. If you're lucky, the mines are ideally placed (after the start line, before the jump... )and you can set a very nice PR, if you're not...


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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #14 on: Apr 24th, 2003, 10:02pm »

Ok Thanks...I think I get it now
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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #15 on: Jul 17th, 2003, 05:11am »

Blimey, I'm away for a year and so and when I get back your all talking about a new technique. I'll have to give this JDT a try one of these days.
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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #16 on: Jul 31st, 2003, 04:48am »

Ok, I've tried doing the JDT on the Championship circuit. I bump into the wall, hit the first dash plate at 90 degree but I still find my vehicle smashing into the wall (probably because there is a velocity component in that direction even though you are not pressing the accelerator). What other things am I supposed to be doing with the controls straight after I hit the wall?

Well after about 20-30 minutes of repeatidly bashing the electric barrier I decided to play the track without using the JDT and I took 0.73 seconds off my PR.
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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #17 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 02:32am »

on Jul 31st, 2003, 04:48am, Ninto wrote:
Ok, I've tried doing the JDT on the Championship circuit. I bump into the wall, hit the first dash plate at 90 degree but I still find my vehicle smashing into the wall (probably because there is a velocity component in that direction even though you are not pressing the accelerator). What other things am I supposed to be doing with the controls straight after I hit the wall?

The video shows the player holding R from the first dash plate all the way until he is ready to straighten out. He also taps left on the pad a couple times, possibly by accident ... but also possibly a stabilizing maneuver.
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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #18 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 02:37am »

I can't do the JDT per se, but the 1 or 2 times I have gotten it to work on the Champ track I was actually facing the opposite direction Fred Just does (I face the inside of the track he faces the outside).
But, as I said, I can't get the JDT to work consistently so you may want to disregard what I just posted.
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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #19 on: Aug 3rd, 2003, 02:01am »

I'll try too explain how I do it, but it's difficult because I don't think about it before I do it I just do instinctively.

Anyway. You have to take the corner before the boost plate very well so you're in complete control of the JV.

Next the hard bit. Hold R after the corner (I always hold L or R for every track) and then hold left and at the same time let go of A. If you timed it right you should of hit the wall and then the first boost plate and be at a 45 degree angle.

Now you should let go of left while still pressing R (I let go of left when I'm at that 45 degree angle I was talking about). Stay like that until you hit the second boost plate and then press left again so you're traveling at a 90 degree angle. Cross the line and correct the JV and continue your race. Easy! (Well, maybe not! )

Also, it seems mine and Tonio's strats differ. So I thought some of you would like to see my replay. I don't have the necessary equipment though.

So I have uploaded my save to a PC with a "flash advance" cable thingy and the save works with the Visual Boy Advance emulator. You can downloaded it here (it's not a rom or anything):

http://www.geocities.com/simon_cheetham/simonc-f-zero.zip

Just delete the above if you don't allow this.



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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #20 on: Aug 3rd, 2003, 07:13am »

Damn I have long way to go...
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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #21 on: Aug 3rd, 2003, 11:57am »

Simon

I make a video of your's record
can I upload it on internet ?

the record on 47 pictures:
http://www.efrance.fr/fredjust/FzeroGx/Film/pages/f_simon.html

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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #22 on: Aug 3rd, 2003, 7:30pm »

where did you buy the cable?
you can't find it in shops right?
I don't need the flash cards...
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« Reply #23 on: Aug 4th, 2003, 01:25am »

The cable I used is a Flas2Advance, I only bought it so I could play NES games, but I never do.

Anyway, I'm not sure where to buy them from, but you can buy the cable without a flash card. Check here:

http://flash2advance.com/

Yes Fred, you can make a video of it.
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Re: Dash Technique
« Reply #24 on: Aug 4th, 2003, 03:02am »


Video record of Simon :
http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/F_zeroGBA/files/

make with Visual Boy Advance
Very good quality
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